Most homosexuality is a choice

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Are you heterosexual?

Do you see a difference between your orientation and pedophilia or are they the same?

I wouldn't think that's difficult to answer.

a reply to: Darth_Prime

Yes...the sex/type of person they are attracted to sexually. Man, woman, children or horses. What am I missing.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

You nailed that!!! But I'm not suggesting or trying to make a point of it. I just don't understand why it wouldn't be considered a disorder. I assume the reason pedophillia is a disorder is because it is not the "norm" (meaning man and woman). I would assume an attraction to horses would be a disorder also. Then why would homosexuallity be a disorder also since it is not the "norm"?

Sexual orientation is not the same as acting on it.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Are you heterosexual?

Do you see a difference between your orientation and pedophilia or are they the same?

I wouldn't think that's difficult to answer.

They are different because the "norm" is a man and a woman. Anything else is not the norm. I would assume that if one that is not the norm is considered a disorder, that others that are not the norm are also.

Note the word ASSUME.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Green eyes are not the norm and you can not choose not to have them is that a disorder?.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

They are different because the "norm" is a man and a woman. Anything else is not the norm. I would assume that if one that is not the norm is considered a disorder, that others that are not the norm are also.

Normal is a statistical term. So yes homosexuality is the "norm".

Ever consider that homosexuality may be nature's answer to overpopulation?

a reply to: boymonkey74

Green eyes are physical, not mental. Sexual orientation is in the mind, and not physical.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Are you heterosexual?

Do you see a difference between your orientation and pedophilia or are they the same?

I wouldn't think that's difficult to answer.

They are different because the "norm" is a man and a woman. Anything else is not the norm. I would assume that if one that is not the norm is considered a disorder, that others that are not the norm are also.

Note the word ASSUME.

Yeah, that's not what you're asking. You're asking how pedophila and homosexuality are different since they're both innate and experienced.

As your heterosexuality is. The "norm" comment is a judgement that holds no water since you want to focus on the innate motivation.

But as far as "norms" go, there are far more cases of heterosexual pedophila than homosexual ... so in terms of "norms" it's far more realistic to compare heterosexuality and pedophilia.

/shrug

(PS, that's known as "being hoisted on your own petard.")

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: boymonkey74

Green eyes are physical, not mental. Sexual orientation is in the mind, and not physical.

Any evidence of that you'd like to share?

Because, there are thousands of biologists, physicians, neurologists and psychologists that may want to know that you've solved the question of sexual orientation and they can now focus on something else ...

Please.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Unless you want what has finally become a discussion, turn into a debate...lets not go there. While I believe homosexuallity is not a choice and while I have no problem with anyone being gay, I do have issues with how SOME gay people handle debating the topic. Many immediately take it personally and defensively when asked a question. As you can see how some have responded here. It was immediately assumed that I was trying to make a point...corner someone, etc.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Genetics says you are wrong.

www.nbcnews.com...

www.mirror.co.uk...

Just a part of the human condition.
I bet you think people on the autism spectrum are abnormal also?
Nope like I said just part of a very varied human condition.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I am sure they would love his addition to the Journal of Medicine. Peer reviewed of course.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
a reply to: boymonkey74

Green eyes are physical, not mental. Sexual orientation is in the mind, and not physical.

Any evidence of that you'd like to share?

Because, there are thousands of biologists, physicians, neurologists and psychologists that may want to know that you've solved the question of sexual orientation and they can now focus on something else ...

Please.

Well...lets see. Physically the vast majority are either male or female. DNA, etc. Therefore, sexual orientation can only be based in the mind.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

Well...lets see. Physically the vast majority are either male or female. DNA, etc. Therefore, sexual orientation can only be based in the mind.

Sure send it in. Thrill them with your acumen.

You don't care to analyze the connections between heterosexuality and pedophila/child abuse???

I thought you were interested in getting to the bottom of it (so to speak) and "understanding"?

Far more pedophiles are hetero than homo.

Go for it. 'splain that to us.

(Oh, and why not drop the "victim act" if you really want to discuss the matter.)

a reply to: boymonkey74

FYI...the majority of their peers discredited this due to the extremely low test group size.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Well...lets see. Physically the vast majority are either male or female. DNA, etc. Therefore, sexual orientation can only be based in the mind.

Still not understanding what you are trying to argue.

Sexual orientation is based in the mind and is inborn. It is not a choice.

Homosexuality is not a disorder. There are some evidence that it is nature's way to alleviate overpopulation.

a reply to: Gryphon66

You know what...you're a real insulting prick. If you don't care to discuss without being one, then it is a waste of time.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I would assume an attraction to horses would be a disorder also. Then why wouldn't homosexuallity be a disorder also since it is not the "norm"?

I seriously doubt the normalcy is the determining factor when they deliberate on what constitutes a psychiatric disorder.

I'm not going to assume on their behalf. It's not my professional field. I'm a web developer.

I will say though that what I said about a victim and non-consent applies to zoophilia as well.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Sorry...tell it to the ass who seems to prefer arguing. I'm outa here.

originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: AMPTAH
Well Mr Pope of the world crackpot of Jeebus, did you CHOOSE to be boy or girl?

I can choose either. When I decided to reincarnate I made my pick. But, even in human life, I can change it. Today, medical science is capable of changing gender either way. So, can I choose?

YES I CAN.

Did you CHOOSE your hair color?

When I chose my parents, I picked my hair color. But, even in this earthly life, I can change it. Today, we have hair color dyes sold in health and beauty shops, and at anytime I can change my original choice. So, can I change my hair color?

YEA I CAN.

DID you CHOOSE your eye color?

Haven't you seen any hollywood movies? We have colored contact lenses today. You can have blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes, grey eyes. So, can I choose my eye color?

YES I CAN.

Does one CHOOSE genetic things like heart disease?

There are several ways to choose heart disease. You can eat lots of food with bad cholesterol, and plug up the arteries. You can inject a "retrovirus" into the body, carrying the heart disease genome, and transform the healthy person into a sick one.
So, can I choose genetic things like heart disease?

YES I CAN.

Face it, you are basing EVERYTHING YOU SAY on convenient and comfortable opinion.

Why would it be "comfortable opinion" ?

Everything I say is based on wisdom and facts.

Sexuality falls into the above categories. It is not CHOSEN.

YES I CAN.

SO CAN YOU.

Don't let anybody fool you, and tell you that it is impossible. They just don't know anything.

If you want to change, listen to those who are "positive" and carry messages of "hope".

Ignore all who are "negative", and say it can't be done.

MAN WENT TO THE MOON.

YES WE CAN.

We can do anything, we set our "MIND" to do.