Very recent epiphany, The gay rights movement has a very sinister agenda.

originally posted by: Bone75

If a gay guy's mom walks into a bakery and asks for a wedding cake with 2 men on top, and the baker refuses, is he discriminating against the woman because of her sexual orientation?

NO. He has every right to refuse to decorate in a way that is offensive to him.

He does not have the right to refuse a standard cake, probably in his catalog, that he baked for a straight wedding,

a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

a reply to: deadeyedick

Yeah, business owners in the South used to try that tactic, but people caught on that every time a black person tried to rent a hotel room or sit down at a restaurant, they were told "we're all filled up" or "no tables are available".... that tactic didn't work.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

Seems that if that is not done in the first place (refusing service on 'implication')...that point is a moot one, and deserves a fair degree of self examination on the part of the trader.

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originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

a reply to: akushla99

Re: the OP

The 'sinister agenda' as portrayed in the OP is clearly misplaced.

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originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

The baker is not required to place a same sex couple on a cake.

That would be a special request.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

The baker is not required to place a same sex couple on a cake.

That would be a special request.

In as much as the 'cake debate' is a diversionary quibble relating to very passive-agressive behaviour - a wedding cake with figurines is all of a sudden 'a special request'?

Å99

The biggest problem is how the whiners cry out every time they feel like.

Not every bad event can be chalked up to discrimination.

Oh you won't do this or that! It is because I am _____!

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

The baker is not required to place a same sex couple on a cake.

That would be a special request.

In as much as the 'cake debate' is a diversionary quibble relating to very passive-agressive behaviour - a wedding cake with figurines is all of a sudden 'a special request'?

Å99

Where did I say that?

Decorating a cake falls under artistic expression. The baker is not required to put something on a cake that offends them.

They are not required to make a "gay" cake.

They are required to make a standard cake, like from their catalog.

The baker should probably offer to sell the figurines to the same sex couple so they can put them on the cake.

There is a lawsuit in England right now about this. I don't know if its been settled yet.

DP

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

The baker is not required to place a same sex couple on a cake.

That would be a special request.

In as much as the 'cake debate' is a diversionary quibble relating to very passive-agressive behaviour - a wedding cake with figurines is all of a sudden 'a special request'?

Å99

Where did I say that?

Decorating a cake falls under artistic expression. The baker is not required to put something on a cake that offends them.

They are not required to make a "gay" cake.

They are required to make a standard cake, like from their catalog.

The baker should probably offer to sell the figurines to the same sex couple so they can put them on the cake.

There is a lawsuit in England right now about this. I don't know if its been settled yet.

Errr...sorry? 'Gay cake'????

Å99

a reply to: deadeyedick

Like those who Whine about Their Religious Liberties, and this "War on Religion" and this "Gay Agenda" and this "Gays shouldn't be Gay in public" or don't be "Too Homo" etc

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

The baker is not required to place a same sex couple on a cake.

That would be a special request.

In as much as the 'cake debate' is a diversionary quibble relating to very passive-agressive behaviour - a wedding cake with figurines is all of a sudden 'a special request'?

Å99

Where did I say that?

Decorating a cake falls under artistic expression. The baker is not required to put something on a cake that offends them.

They are not required to make a "gay" cake.

They are required to make a standard cake, like from their catalog.

The baker should probably offer to sell the figurines to the same sex couple so they can put them on the cake.

There is a lawsuit in England right now about this. I don't know if its been settled yet.

Errr...sorry? 'Gay cake'????

Å99

Never mind.

You just want to argue.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

The baker is not required to place a same sex couple on a cake.

That would be a special request.

In as much as the 'cake debate' is a diversionary quibble relating to very passive-agressive behaviour - a wedding cake with figurines is all of a sudden 'a special request'?

Å99

Where did I say that?

Decorating a cake falls under artistic expression. The baker is not required to put something on a cake that offends them.

They are not required to make a "gay" cake.

They are required to make a standard cake, like from their catalog.

The baker should probably offer to sell the figurines to the same sex couple so they can put them on the cake.

There is a lawsuit in England right now about this. I don't know if its been settled yet.

A couple walks into a baker, orders a 'standard' wedding cake from a catalogue...in as much as the artistic 'expression' is concerned, the figurines are very much less than the 15% of the bulk of the opus, and probably not made by the baker...refuse to sell the cake?...the figurines?

Å99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: akushla99

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee

That makes sense.

He should also have the right to refuse service to any he chooses as long as reasons are not stated.

Others should not have the right to guess as to what his reasons are and imply stuff toward him.

LGBT anti-discrimination laws currently depend on the state. Hopefully, they will be added to the Federal List before Obama leaves office.

If state law exists - - - you can not refuse service because of sexual orientation.

All customers must be treated equally.

Special requests can be refused.

If the 'special request' is a standard wedding cake, but instead of 2 figurines (1 male + 1 female) one of the figurines is changed...is there an implied discrimination based on orientation?...and does the discrimination extend, or not extend, to whether a 'gay couple' are purchasing a standard cake for a straight couple?

Å99

The baker is not required to place a same sex couple on a cake.

That would be a special request.

In as much as the 'cake debate' is a diversionary quibble relating to very passive-agressive behaviour - a wedding cake with figurines is all of a sudden 'a special request'?

Å99

Where did I say that?

Decorating a cake falls under artistic expression. The baker is not required to put something on a cake that offends them.

They are not required to make a "gay" cake.

They are required to make a standard cake, like from their catalog.

The baker should probably offer to sell the figurines to the same sex couple so they can put them on the cake.

There is a lawsuit in England right now about this. I don't know if its been settled yet.

Errr...sorry? 'Gay cake'????

Å99

Never mind.

You just want to argue.

"Re: the OP

The 'sinister agenda' as portrayed in the OP is clearly misplaced."

Å99

a reply to: akushla99

As the baker, you don't have to put any figurines on a cake if it offends you. You don't have to put a plastic penis on the cake. You don't have to put a Swastika or a pentagram, or a cross, or a rat or a hat or a cat on a cake, if you don't want to. As long as you sell the same product to one group that you sell to everyone else, you are good.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: akushla99

As the baker, you don't have to put any figurines on a cake if it offends you. You don't have to put a plastic penis on the cake. You don't have to put a Swastika or a pentagram, or a cross, or a rat or a hat or a cat on a cake, if you don't want to. As long as you sell the same product to one group that you sell to everyone else, you are good.

Sounds about right.

Å99

This thread is NOT about cake or bakers!!!!!

Shall we return to the topic, please?
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