Very recent epiphany, The gay rights movement has a very sinister agenda.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

You can have your free speech, but you are paranoid and you are wrong.

Have a nice night

originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: ketsuko

You say all of that, but there are a lot of single parent families that don't provide what you speak of.

There are also many mixed families where dad or mum are not the biological parent. Some of these parents are not very nice.

I would argue that most of those children grow up fine.

Look around, the heterosexual family unit is seldom the ideal model you put forward. And none of the situations I raised are the fault of gay people.

Put simply, divorce, mixed families and single parents are not the fault if the gay community.

I did say two parents is best. And I blamed nothing on gay parents. Btw, that gay community are not immune to divorce, mixed families and single parents or issues of domestic abuse anymore than heterosexual families are, so we can remove those arguments from the table. Neither side is immune, so neither can claim a high ground.

But the best chance is two parents of opposite gender and I explained why. My reason has nothing to do with immunity to any of your issues, but has everything to do with the composition of the family and what children learn from it.

As for "most" of those children turning out fine, stats would argue that if your number is "most," even more kids in stable, two parent families composed of their original mother and father do better. Sorry, but the numbers are on my side in this.

Or, a child growing up in an ideal single parent situation has less of a chance of growing up fine than a child in an ideal two parent situation has less of a chance of turning out fine than a child growing up in an ideal two parent, male/female original mommy/daddy situation.

originally posted by: ketsuko

I did say two parents is best. And I blamed nothing on gay parents. Btw, that gay community are not immune to divorce, mixed families and single parents or issues of domestic abuse anymore than heterosexual families are, so we can remove those arguments from the table. Neither side is immune, so neither can claim a high ground.

Let me say that the stable, 2 parent family is the ideal we all aspire to. There is no agenda to destroy it, but all this blame on the gay community attacking traditional family values is bollocks. We simply want to emulate as closely as we can the same ideals.

But the best chance is two parents of opposite gender and I explained why. My reason has nothing to do with immunity to any of your issues, but has everything to do with the composition of the family and what children learn from it.

As for "most" of those children turning out fine, stats would argue that if your number is "most," even more kids in stable, two parent families composed of their original mother and father do better. Sorry, but the numbers are on my side in this.

Or, a child growing up in an ideal single parent situation has less of a chance of growing up fine than a child in an ideal two parent situation has less of a chance of turning out fine than a child growing up in an ideal two parent, male/female original mommy/daddy situation.

Is that so?

One study into the health and wellbeing of children in Australian LGBT parented families has recently commenced and only preliminary data and information about the study were available at the time of writing (Crouch, Waters, McNair, Power, & Davis, 2012, Crouch, 2013). The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families (ACHESS) based at the University of Melbourne has collected data on 500 children aged 0-17 years from 315 LGBT parents. The study is based on self-report data from parents and children, and utilised the Child Health Questionnaire and the Infant and Toddler Quality of Life Questionnaire. For 80% of the children a female parent completed the survey, 18% were completed by a male parent, and 2% were completed by an other-gendered parent . On measures of general health and family cohesion children aged 5 to 17 years with same-sex attracted parents had significantly better scores when compared to Australian children from all other backgrounds and family contexts.]/b] For all other health measures there were no statistically significant differences. These preliminary findings indicate Australian children with same-sex attracted parents are developing wel l

I'm not saying we are perfect, but we can hold on own when emotion is removed and science applied.

Australian Government study source

I have no beef with you Ketsuko. or anyone that supports the traditional family model for that fact. I am simply trying to say stop calling us less that you. because we can do just as good a job of having committed relationships and raising kids where it happens.

a reply to: GoShredAK

I just want to say good for you in this thread. Reading your OP, I knew you were opening up a can of worms.

I can easily tell from your replies to others that you don't intend harm and are simply stating your view and perspective. The attacks on you are numerous, but you are obviously at peace with whatever others might say.

Let others be enraged by words on the internet.

I applaud you for having peace in your heart. Few can say they have that.

a reply to: markosity1973

I am simply trying to say stop calling us less that you. because we can do just as good a job of having committed relationships and raising kids where it happens.

Yep. You can.


And you are not "less than" anyone else.
Have a great night, mark. You inspire many people. Your video posted early in the thread made tears come to my eyes.

Starry, starry night.


"They would not listen, they did not know how....perhaps they'll listen now.

They would not listen, they're not listening still.....perhaps they never will."

originally posted by: ArnoldNonymous
a reply to: GoShredAK

I just want to say good for you in this thread. Reading your OP, I knew you were opening up a can of worms.

I can easily tell from your replies to others that you don't intend harm and are simply stating your view and perspective. The attacks on you are numerous, but you are obviously at peace with whatever others might say.

Let others be enraged by words on the internet.

I applaud you for having peace in your heart. Few can say they have that.

peace in his heart? By thinking that a large portion of the human race have a satanic agenda...ok mate

a reply to: GoShredAK

How is it Relevant? Gay Culture was manufactured by the "Powers that be".. that is a Relevant statement backed by Sanity?

We don't want happy families?

a reply to: Titen-Sxull

ok well I never brought up Satan.... You don't have to self identify with certain things to be saying the same stuff....it's just an observation...

a reply to: GoShredAK

Way too much jesus-talk in OP's post to fully read it (sorry).

People can have sex with whomever they want to have sex with as far as I'm concerned. As long as it's not an underaged child, you religious fools should mind your own business.

I don't think there are any more gay people now than there were 100+ years ago.
I think nowadays they can feel a bit safer "coming out" and that's great.

If I had a crackpot theory about it, it would be that the media has blown up gay culture so much to the point where the average person thinks that the U.S. population is like, 20% gay which is so far from the actual numbers -- so I'd figure TPTB is hyping up gay culture as a subtle form of population control.

And that's cool by me, too.

As far as all that sanctity of marriage rubbish? Gimme a break. Take a look at divorce rates.

a reply to: GoShredAK

I find this post atrocious and the epitome of ignorance. I have a gay sibling, and believe me he is not behind any sinister plot. You have issues, you obviously can't get along with diversity. I pray for you that you will find it within yourself to grow and get Beyond the hate.

originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

You can have your free speech, but you are paranoid and you are wrong.

Have a nice night

Yah whatever you say brother.....

KGB defector explains all the soviet style subversion...too bad you are unable or unwilling to face it head on... www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: Darth_Prime

We don't want happy families?

We could tell them about the 'happy famililes' we grew up in, but apparently we are communists who want to destroy such things lmao.

Loving how the straights (the ignorant ones, not all of you cos most of you are awesome) raise us, cast us out then blame all their problems on us. Talk about the ultimate in convenient disposable problem solvers.

a reply to: prolethreat81

As long as it's not an underaged child, you religious fools should mind your own business.

You know....I have explained how it has become everyone's business....it is soaked into the Common Core curriculum....it is truly sad to see how many people do not understand the deliberate subversive technique being embedded in all the lessons in the Common Core materials. They are making it everyone's business even innocent schoolchildren in all grades. Deny it all you like.

a reply to: markosity1973

Mark, I have explained that there is communist Marxist subversive activity. I'm terribly sorry it is so difficult a concept for you to perceive. It's just part of a bigger thing...so don't take it so personal. It's really not about you.

Yep in fact I bring up KGB and Marxism and you firebreath hatred upon me...interesting

Heres part 1...maybe someone will view it anyway
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: markosity1973

Yeah, lets talk about our Families, our Heterosexual parents.. Both of them 1 Man 1 Woman, both Religious.. lets talk about the Happy life we lived with a "Normal Family" that was "Done Right"

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

My mum said the same thing in back 1983 when the Labor government came to power in New Zealand.

I'm surprised you're not in your bunker awaiting the impending doom for Sep 23d.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: markosity1973

Yeah, lets talk about our Families, our Heterosexual parents.. Both of them 1 Man 1 Woman, both Religious.. lets talk about the Happy life we lived with a "Normal Family" that was "Done Right"

But no, no. We 'chose' to be like this. We got disowned because it's all our own fault for not reading the bible enough, or not praying to Jesus right, drinking too much red cordial or something.

And now we seek revenge for what they did to us with our marxist manifesto.

Yeah right. I wish more families were like this utopian ideal everyone keeps presenting.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I replied to the OP without having thoroughly read the entire thread (shame on me). I've got to say, your thoughts on common core / communism / socialism are very intriguing.

I'm not liberal in my overall beliefs. I just don't care where other men decide to stick their penises (as long as it isn't inside of children), and same for women, different genetalia.

These Yuri Bezmenov videos are interesting. Gives me something to watch while I am a prisoner in my own house until next Tuesday (I live in Philadelphia and the city has been essentially shut down for the Papal visit. I can't even go to work, etc). Thanks.

a reply to: GoShredAK

If the Satan runs the show, it aint for long, ill tell you that much. Chances are "it" doesnt technically exist in this dimension. Afterall, if "it" exists, it probably hides from most people and their powers of perception, and perhaps ignorance does protect from "it" if it even exists...

What or who exactly is the Satan? The accuser? A genocidal psychotic dictator? A random person who has no idea? A transdimensional entity? Perhaps it is just the adversarial forces blocking us from true economic, technological, medical, and societal progress. Then again, some see that progress as evil too! Conondrums abounds...

Chances are a lot of the stuff found in religion is highly metaphorical and rather than literal, is a reflection of the experiences and archetypes found in humanity. Freud did a lot of work on archetypes.

Carl Jung is a fairly unrecognized character to many people, although his studies into synchronicity are VITAL to understanding the truth of what, i do not know, but i do know it is heavily guarded by "something".


As for any gay agenda, i disagree. I believe in free will, and choice. I do believe that many choose their sexuality, while others are more predisposed to feeling and thinking in certain sexual ways, largely due to genetics, but environment too! The point is that all people should do their best to respect, live and let live. Are there things that some homosexual individuals do that are bothersome or wrong? Of course! Any type of person can wrong do, or do right! As to what is right and wrong, well, sticking to the basics is my answer for that.

a reply to: prolethreat81

Ex KGB gave that lecture some time in the 80's. It sounds almost like today except he mentions the Sandinistas and Grenada.
Just look at how everybody here spews so much venomous hatred..... division, subversion, destabilization. You bring the truth and it's like in that movie Jurassic Park where the dino spits goey venom in the guy's face.