Behind the scenes with Bernie Sanders:

a reply to: Metallicus

Almost most politicians are liars, we all know that! but I would take my chances on someone who has shown solid integrity over someone who is an outright egotistical maniac who thinks he can make damaging comments about others who are, in his eyes, are lesser humans than himself, am talking about Trump.

Screw his policies, because in my eyes Trump lacks basic human moral principles, and anyone in his right mind would not let that wolf in sheep clothing run a country.

The moral values of which the country was built on, will be nothing more than another Apprentice game show, just entertainment while his business brings him profit.

a reply to: neo96

And think of the contracts they would (not) bid out!

These members of Congress are investors and their friends are investors and they are beholden to other investors. We would be giving all these investors $18 trillion to 'invest' in the economy and however they see fit...because of the lack of checks and balances.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: neo96

And think of the contracts they would (not) bid out!

These members of Congress are investors and their friends are investors and they are beholden to other investors. We would be giving all these investors $18 trillion to 'invest' in the economy and however they see fit...because of the lack of checks and balances.

Like high speed rails made in china doesn't seem too balanced to me.

a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Trump will be breaking from republicans and splitting the conservative vote to give Bernie the win -- because Trump wants his share of the $18 trillion Bernie plans to spend.

All in due time. First, the Establishment wants Hillary's email scandal to fully benefit Bernie, and Joe Biden will split the moderate democrat vote to help, too. Hillary will never be charged with jack because that's not part of the plan.

Bernie emerging as the grassroots underdog nominee who didn't have to mudsling or get media attention to beat Hillary Clinton, is the first stage of that plan.

The more right wing hit pieces we get on Bernie the more I think he's the right candidate this nation needs, his platforms remind me a lot of FDR and Teddy Roosevelt's platforms to restore the faith of people. This nation desperately needs a president that will slash military spending and invest it right back into our infrastructure and schools.

He's the only candidate that hasn't relied on smear campaigns against his opponents, he doesn't need to rile his base up by telling them how many groups of people he's going to round up and deport, he doesn't rely on hate to appeal to voters and I think that's why neocons and right wingers hate him so much. He's not about war, he's not about hate, and he's not about fear.

A $1 trillion investment in infrastructure could create 13 million decent paying jobs and make this country more efficient and productive. We need to invest in infrastructure, not more war.

We live in one of the wealthiest countries on earth, yet children go hungry, veterans sleep out on the streets and senior citizens cannot afford their prescription drugs. This is what a rigged economic system looks like.

To restore our one person-one vote democracy, Congress must pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United and move toward public funding of elections.

Instead of a constant stream of hit pieces on Bernie from the right, why don't they tell us who the better alternatives are?

Bush?
Trump?
Jindal?
Fiorina?

When they have to rely on untruthful smear pieces to make their side look better, it says a lot.

originally posted by: muse7
The more right wing hit pieces we get on Bernie the more I think he's the right candidate this nation needs, his platforms remind me a lot of FDR and Teddy Roosevelt's platforms to restore the faith of people. This nation desperately needs a president that will slash military spending and invest it right back into our infrastructure and schools.

He's the only candidate that hasn't relied on smear campaigns against his opponents, he doesn't need to rile his base up by telling them how many groups of people he's going to round up and deport, he doesn't rely on hate to appeal to voters and I think that's why neocons and right wingers hate him so much. He's not about war, he's not about hate, and he's not about fear.

A $1 trillion investment in infrastructure could create 13 million decent paying jobs and make this country more efficient and productive. We need to invest in infrastructure, not more war.

We live in one of the wealthiest countries on earth, yet children go hungry, veterans sleep out on the streets and senior citizens cannot afford their prescription drugs. This is what a rigged economic system looks like.

To restore our one person-one vote democracy, Congress must pass a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United and move toward public funding of elections.

Instead of a constant stream of hit pieces on Bernie from the right, why don't they tell us who the better alternatives are?

Bush?
Trump?
Jindal?
Fiorina?

When they have to rely on untruthful smear pieces to make their side look better, it says a lot.

pfffffft, coming from someone who admittedly said they would vote for Obama for third term? What does that mean?

Your already hopeless.......

originally posted by: neo96

WHAT GAP?

I am still left here trying to figure out why you love to bash Sanders so much, than others like Trump, I agree with you generally but picking up on the nitty gritty for the sake of debating is pointless really.

Let's stop and think for a moment, can you really change the political situation by complaining about Sanders and turning a blind eye on the rest of them?

Where is the logic when you don't agree with the rest, but is hell bent on attacking Sanders?

a reply to: muse7

There are no better nor worse candidates. But that does not mean people should go with the guy who wants our corrupt Congress to spend the most money.

When Bernie makes some novel idea about REAL government-spending oversight reform central to his campaign, let me know.

a reply to: muse7

The more right wing hit pieces we get on Bernie the more I think he's the right candidate this nation needs, his platforms remind me a lot of FDR and Teddy Roosevelt's platforms to restore the faith of people. This nation desperately needs a president that will slash military spending and invest it right back into our infrastructure and schools.

Is that the same FDR that went around locking up Japanese Americans, and taking all their earthly possessions ?

And confiscated the American publics gold, and silver, and that wasn't enough stole gold out of Fort Knox, and that wasn't enough created that ponzi scheme worthy of wall street called social security.

And that wasn't enough went around locking up people that didn't agree with him.

And is that the same Teddy Roosevelt as this:

American Fascist reveals how TR’s early love of war and strong central government developed consistently into a view of ever-increasing government power over business with a strong integration of industry and military. He worked to impose national corporatism and vast regulation. He worked to increase the power of the executive office beyond historical precedent, sometimes bypassed Congress, and claimed to find new powers in the Constitution when needed. He confiscated millions of acres of land and waters for the federal government in the name of conservation. Above all, TR wanted war, war, war to a degree almost impossible to overstate. He desired war almost as a sport, and when not for sport, as a useful spur to industry and national greatness. On more than one occasion, TR acknowledged what bloody consequences would result in starting wars, but dismissed them as a mere means to the end of national greatness.

americanvision.org...

This country doesn't need more of their kind.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: muse7

There are no better nor worse candidates. But that does not mean people should go with the guy who wants our corrupt Congress to spend the most money.

When Bernie makes some novel idea about REAL government-spending oversight reform central to his campaign, let me know.

He's the only candidate talking about specifics, instead of spewing vague and empty statements like "Make America Great Again!"

originally posted by: InnerPeace2012

originally posted by: neo96

WHAT GAP?

I am still left here trying to figure out why you love Bash Sanders so much, than others like Trump, I agree with you generally but picking up on the nitty gritty for the sake of debating is pointless really.

Let's stop and think for a moment, can you really change the political situation by complaining about Sanders and turning a blind eye on the rest of them?

Where is the logic when you don't agree with the rest, but is hell bent on attacking Sanders?

No logic can be followed because everyone is a rabid partisan.

The reality is that BOTH parties work hand-in-hand for the Establishment and if people could let go of their hate for 'the other side,' then they might have the objectivity to see it.

Shock! Democrats and Republicans are equally despicable because they serve the same Establishment master even if they have different roles.

The voters aren't driving the agenda -- it's not our version of capitalism and it's not our version of socialism.

The Establishment -- the global elite -- drive the agenda.

a reply to: muse7

What the hell is Sanders going on about ?

Banks get the money for their loans from the federal reserve.

Every single one does.

They in turn charge the bank a fee, who in turn charges the borrower a fee.

The banks make money off of nothing. The federal reserve makes money off of nothing.

Now since the creation of Frank Dodd, and the new Consumer protection Bureau fair lending practices ALREADY exist.

I have yet to see Sanders even being to know what he is talking about.

a reply to: muse7

I am not talking about prioritizing areas where we spend money, I am talking about spending-corruption oversight. A great example would be the phantom districts that received money from Obama's stimulus plan.

The questions were essentially swept under the rug with the explanation that a whole lot of recipients just typed in the wrong zip code. That excuse just doesn't pass oversight muster when I have typed in my zip code wrong on internet forms before and have gotten the error "Please enter a valid zip code."

We don't have the most basic oversight practices in place when it comes to government spending.

a reply to: neo96

Red flag. Excessive extrapolation. This is 2015, not the middle of the 20th century. Was Bernie even alive when FDR was? Irrelevant. Now, will you give me an answer as to how someone that wants to bring change to Washington do it without these funds?

ETA: I checked. Sanders was 3 when FDR died.

a reply to: neo96

What this country doesn't need more of is Republicans that continue to fool people into believing that the only way to achieve economic prosperity is to continue to give billionaires and banks even more money and tax breaks.

Bernie is definitely a breath of fresh air and neocons are terrified of him...that's enough for me to conclude that he would make a great president.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

The reality is that BOTH parties work hand-in-hand for the Establishment and if people could let go of their hate for 'the other side,' then they might have the objectivity to see it.

Shock! Democrats and Republicans are equally despicable because they serve the same Establishment master even if they have different roles.

The voters aren't driving the agenda -- it's not our version of capitalism and it's not our version of socialism.

The Establishment -- the global elite -- drive the agenda.

Now we are really talking, and am sure neo has the same premise, well as I understand from his general outlook. The Establishment is indeed agenda driven, well Bernie is although a man of integrity, he too can be easily manipulated if somehow pulls through as the POTUS anyway.

It's the basket that's rotten and the shiny fruits will eventually become rotten themselves. I really think we need a new basket to house shiny fruits like Sanders. Sublimecraft would agree...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: neo96

Red flag. Excessive extrapolation. This is 2015, not the middle of the 20th century. Was Bernie even alive when FDR was? Irrelevant. Now, will you give me an answer as to how someone that wants to bring change to Washington do it without these funds?

Thats not a red flag someone else brought FDR, and TR up as 'we' need to be more like.

I just disagreed.

Lol's Hilary is the front runner, yet the right are all out attacking of Mr Sanders?



Maybe they fear change and know that Hilary would just be the same old corporate politics.



Where are Benghazi and wiped server posts?


Fear the bern!

originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: neo96

What this country doesn't need more of is Republicans that continue to fool people into believing that the only way to achieve economic prosperity is to continue to give billionaires and banks even more money and tax breaks.

Bernie is definitely a breath of fresh air and neocons are terrified of him...that's enough for me to conclude that he would make a great president.

Well we all know robbing from the rich, and giving to the poor so they can go out, and buy more stuff hasn't achieve 'economic prosperty'.

The only thing that has 'achieved' is $18 trillion in debt, and over $100 trillion of programs that CAN NEVER be paid for.

And honestly I do not get why people keep acting like tax breaks don't exist for the middle class, and the poor because they damn well do.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: neo96

Red flag. Excessive extrapolation. This is 2015, not the middle of the 20th century. Was Bernie even alive when FDR was? Irrelevant. Now, will you give me an answer as to how someone that wants to bring change to Washington do it without these funds?

Thats not a red flag someone else brought FDR, and TR up as 'we' need to be more like.

I just disagreed.

Bernie's economic platform does remind me a lot of FDR's and Roosevelt's anti-monopoly and pro wall street regulation platforms.

But I didn't say that he needed to be exactly like them.