Ben Carson: No Muslims as President

a reply to: Brainiac

If the President of the United States is sworn in he has to put his hand on the bible, are they going to bring out a Quran at the swearing in?

No they don't have to place their hand on the bible they can choose any book that applies to their faith like Keith Elliot for example used the Quran when he was elected into office.

Islam and the United States are incompatible.

The Constitution and any religion is incompatible.

Two opposites. It can't be any more clear than that.

It's clear to a person that has a limited knowledge of both Islam and the United States.

a reply to: buster2010

Ya it is really funny that people think religion has anything to do with our Constitution.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: buster2010

Ya it is really funny that people think religion has anything to do with our Constitution.

Sadly people think that it is based on religion just another failure of our school system. When they see this picture they think it's actually true.

a reply to: Willtell

as long as he has American values

Yes, that is what he said and it's as it should be. Unfortunately there are many many Progessives and liberals and Marxists who loudly decry American values and mores and are trying to "fundamentally change" our country into their nutty socialist utopia and they will do anything to achieve it, including yelling and screaming "bigot" at anyone who says an American POTUS should have American values. It was the whole reason for the requirement of POTUS to be natural born in the country of citizen parents.....to preserve national sovereignty and values and PATRIOTIC honor and integrity to the office and to the people.

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: Brainiac

If the President of the United States is sworn in he has to put his hand on the bible, are they going to bring out a Quran at the swearing in?

No they don't have to place their hand on the bible they can choose any book that applies to their faith like Keith Elliot for example used the Quran when he was elected into office.

Islam and the United States are incompatible.

The Constitution and any religion is incompatible.

Two opposites. It can't be any more clear than that.

It's clear to a person that has a limited knowledge of both Islam and the United States.

I think your statements are naïve. Sharia Law is incompatible with the US Constitution. Any muslim who immigrates to the states and gets citizenship has to take the pledge to uphold the Constitution. If they cannot do that like everyone else who comes here, there is going to be a problem.
There was a problem with BO's swearing in as POTUS and you probably know that and refuse to acknowledge what was really going on.
People here vilified Kim Davis for adhering to the bible, and yet same people defending Islam.
If they can uphold the Constitution, they can be POTUS.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

In traditional Islam there IS NO SEPARATION between the religion and how the country is governed........those in the middle east and those who practice Islam as its traditionally practice, do not feel that those who practice here in the US and are NOT for Sharia,

There are many subtle things too, like man is not supposed to go to beach at same time as woman...man is not supposed to see female form, man is not supposed to wear gold jewelry(considered too flashy), man can have as many wives as he can comfortably support and give equal attention to, cannot dine at table or in room where alcohol is served, all the food has to be halal, I dare any liberal to live with that in a one to one relationship....

Women are second class citizen no matter what bs they spout

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

People here vilified Kim Davis for adhering to the bible, and yet same people defending Islam.

No that is a distortion of the truth.
They vilified her for pushing her religious beliefs on other people and using a elected position to do so.

She can practice her religion all she wants, but has no business doing so to prevent others from living their life.

You wouldn't want a muslim at the DMV not giving out license to women would you?

Shoot just insert a Muslim doing anything like what Davis did and the sky would be falling according to the same people that defended her IMO.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

In traditional Islam there IS NO SEPARATION between the religion and how the country is governed

You think it's different here? We went to war with God's blessing - and destroyed an entire region

I realy dont care who agrees with me or who doesnt, Ive been there, Ive been on the ground, I have spent time in those countries, and I know this to be true.......

What were you doing there?

All that being said there are plenty here in the US who do not believe this way, Charliespiers is a prime example of the type of reformation Islam needs to under go in certain areas..........That dude gets it , and i would venture to say Most in north America who practice have the same views

Then who are you arguing with - yourself?

Me?

That last bit I put in quotes proves my point - not yours. Or does it? :-)

You seem confused

Do you want to know who has no business trying to lead this country? People who believe there is no god but their own and that all should bow down to him and to them - keepers of the faith

That covers a lot of territory and a lot of different flavors

All things in moderation - and there are plenty of moderates to go around. You keep trying to sell the world on this idea that it's not possible for Muslims - who do you think you begin to sound like?

a reply to: BubbaJoe

Let's be really honest and add the names, Bush, Paul, Santorum, Cruz, Rubio, Fiorinna, Trump, etc, etc, hell the republican clown car is so full I can't remember all the names.

You don't know what you are talking about...just rabid hatred of anything with an R

For one thing, I'm not convinced Trump is a real republican or anything conservative regardless of his going on about immigration... I think he's way more Progressive than people want to see, Rubio's parents escaped from Communist Cuba...doesn't take much to know what he thinks of statism....establishment status quo different story...Cruz....had the guts to go up against establishment RINOS in filibuster....Fiorina, at least shes a capitalist (we cant really say that about the socialists on the Democat side) and shes smart, Rand Paul not quite as libertarianish as dad but pretty similar and savvy...wont kow tow to statism....
Do you think the Democrat alternative is not more statist? Face it OBamacare is as statist and fascist as it gets.
Or maybe you think Sanders is really some kind of true liberty promoting individual....no socialist respects individual rights, but as my sister said about ACLU, only collective rights.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

People who believe there is no god but their own

lol I beg you to understand what you just said....

a reply to: Sremmos80

No that is a distortion of the truth. They vilified her for pushing her religious beliefs on other people and using a elected position to do so.

Yes, that's exactly my point, so why would you defend someone who will put Islam and Sharia Law above the Constitution????? what utter hypocrisy!!!!

I really don't know whether you are just going along with all the MoveOn propaganda or if you really don't know what is going on with it...maybe a bit of both....

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
What part of this statement was too hard for you to understand?

The Constitution and any religion is incompatible.

The Constitution stops ANY religion from becoming the law of the land.

There was a problem with BO's swearing in as POTUS and you probably know that and refuse to acknowledge what was really going on.

What that he didn't use the bible the second time? He was already sworn in it wasn't needed. Imo it should be gotten rid of entirely. Did you get upset when he said this?

"We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus and non-believers."

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Sremmos80

No that is a distortion of the truth. They vilified her for pushing her religious beliefs on other people and using a elected position to do so.

Yes, that's exactly my point, so why would you defend someone who will put Islam and Sharia Law above the Constitution????? what utter hypocrisy!!!!

Just because a person is Muslim doesn't automatically mean they will institute Sharia. Do you have any idea everything that would have to be done to institute Sharia? The Constitution itself would have to be changed and that isn't going to happen.

a reply to: buster2010

The Constitution stops ANY religion from becoming the law of the land.

Yes except when some bozo decides to overrule the Constitution with an Executive Order.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Face it OBamacare is as statist and fascist as it gets.

You do know that the ACA was dreamed up by right wingers don't you? And tried to get it passed for years before Obama even took office. If it was by the Dems then how did right winger Romney enact it in his state first?

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: buster2010

The Constitution stops ANY religion from becoming the law of the land.

Yes except when some bozo decides to overrule the Constitution with an Executive Order.

Sorry but that just isn't possible. Perhaps you should learn what you are talking about.

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Face it OBamacare is as statist and fascist as it gets.

You do know that the ACA was dreamed up by right wingers don't you? And tried to get it passed for years before Obama even took office. If it was by the Dems then how did right winger Romney enact it in his state first?

I think Romney is not as conservative as presented, and detest that he presents socialized medicine as something that is successful....but he did go about it as states rights rather than federally mandated, but don't forget that Romney was governor of a blue state....an did he write the law and pass it in his state legislature????

a reply to: buster2010

Just because a person is Muslim doesn't automatically mean they will institute Sharia. Do you have any idea everything that would have to be done to institute Sharia? The Constitution itself would have to be changed and that isn't going to happen.

This is a pathetically naïve way to think about it. Did you understand anything that was going on with the bailout of Sharia compliant AIG with tax dollars and government money???? NO you did not or you wouldn't be saying this.

What that he didn't use the bible the second time? He was already sworn in it wasn't needed. Imo it should be gotten rid of entirely. Did you get upset when he said this?

Oh really?
Ironically, it may have actually had a secretive Masonic overlay, and if so then perhaps there is an Illuminati aspect to all of this... rense.com... (this is a conspiracy website after all)

Anyway, I said as long as they can uphold the Constitution..... you have read this as as long as they don't institute Sharia Law in one fell swoop...that's almost humorous.

Sorry but that just isn't possible. Perhaps you should learn what you are talking about.

You should learn what you are talking about. Executive Orders are already becoming the law of the land in an outright abuse of the executive office. I think you are just looking at this without seeing the gradations or layers.
But you are going to listen to MoveOn come what may...just like many others who don't know what they are bringing about.

The words of Valerie Jarrett...and with this I'm done with this discussion

Valerie Jarrett said what?? In her own words:I am Iranian by birth and of my Islamic Faith. I am also an American citizen and seek to help change America to be a more Islamic country. My faith guides me and I feel like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself”

- Valerie Jarrett Stanford University 1977.

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a reply to: Sremmos80

You wouldn't want a muslim at the DMV not giving out license to women would you?

nope I sure as heck don't....I wonder about some other people though...

originally posted by: Kali74
BBC

One of the business mogul's main opponents, Ben Carson, hit the headlines on Sunday after he told NBC TV that Muslims were unfit to be president.

Dr. Carson did NOT say that Muslims were "unfit" to be President of the USA. I guess Canada has media morons who distort the truth as well.