World flood, did it happen, can it happen again?

There is many accounts in many cultures of global floods, I'm wondering if this comes from truth? Or scientific proven truth that is.

What if there was a sheet of water in our atmosphere long ago that help stabilise the dinosaurs environment?? Then if solar activity causes this to fall to earth. This would prove the global flood accounts and give an other explanation of dinosaur extinction.

Please tell me what you think on the matter and how this could have happened, or extras in it.

a reply to: flanimal4114

Hello Flanimal, I think our legends of floods are memories of actual floods and changes in sea-levels. The idea of a 'global flood' doesn't make any sense and there's not much by way of evidence to support the idea.

Your idea of a 'sheet of water' is interesting. Did you know it's part of an ancient genesis myth? I'll see if I can find which culture thought this. They thought the world was separated into different aspects and the water was somehow kept aloft above the earth.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Well that adds to the mystery a bit about the layer of water extras. Why would a global flood be impossible??? If all water on earth today was in the ocean would it not flood the earth???

a reply to: Kandinsky

Oh and I forgot to say thanks for the info, I'll look into it 😀😀😀

Ok I was thinking and it hit me, what is the most debated flooded thing in the world... Atlantis! Dose this have something to do with a global flood dose this spring from a related flood?

Yes, it happened. (My own personal belief)

If all the ice covering Antarctica, Greenland, and in mountain glaciers around the world were to melt, sea level would rise about 70 meters (230 feet). The ocean would cover all the coastal cities. And land area would shrink significantly. But many cities, such as Denver, would survive.

www.amnh.org...

We know that the ocean was much lower than it used to be in the last ice age, we have an approximation of how much further it would rise if all the ice caps melted.

Where I grew up in NZ the land we lived on is composed of a layer of sand, covered by marine clay covered by peat, then marine clay then peat again. So, the ocean level has gone up and down a few times.

If you were living somewhere coastal and low lying, it would have seemed like the whole world was flooding as the sea advanced.

I am guessing it probably did happen and could happen again at a moments notice we would be none the wiser.

a reply to: flanimal4114

en.wikipedia.org...

The firmament is the sky, conceived as a vast solid dome.[1] According to the Genesis creation narrative, God created the firmament to separate the "waters above" the earth from those below.[2] The word is anglicized from Latin firmamentum, which appears in the Vulgate, a late fourth-century Latin translation of the Bible.

Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.[3]

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I always figured stories of floods would be related to sudden, and huge, sea level rises caused by the breakage of ice dams at the end of the last glacial period in the current ice age. That is, of course, assuming the myths have some basis of truth.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I am guessing it probably did happen and could happen again at a moments notice we would be none the wiser.

If we are talking from a religious perspective, God manipulates nature and sometimes suspends the laws of it.

For every single bit of land to go underwater one of two things would have to happen;

A lot of water would have to come from 'somewhere', perhaps there was a breach of the underground oceans scientists have found then it would have to disappear again - maybe it went back down through the crust (all hypothetical)

OR

The earth physically contracted and the rains were able flood everwhere (don't forget that the himalayas are 8.8km above sea level - that is a LOT of water needed to cover it)

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I am guessing it probably did happen and could happen again at a moments notice we would be none the wiser.

There isn't enough water on the planet to cover all the land. Even if the ice-caps all melted, sea levels would rise an estimated 200+ feet. That's a lot of water alright, but most of the land we already know would remain above sea level.

This would also undercut the possibility that Noah's flood was an historical event.

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
I am guessing it probably did happen and could happen again at a moments notice we would be none the wiser.

If we are talking from a religious perspective, God manipulates nature and sometimes suspends the laws of it.

For every single bit of land to go underwater one of two things would have to happen;

A lot of water would have to come from 'somewhere', perhaps there was a breach of the underground oceans scientists have found then it would have to disappear again - maybe it went back down through the crust (all hypothetical)

OR

The earth physically contracted and the rains were able flood everwhere (don't forget that the himalayas are 8.8km above sea level - that is a LOT of water needed to cover it)

If we are talking religion I think its important to consider that god has angles to do the flooding and other mass disasters.

Yeah think ice fom space, where is there alot of ice? Maybe saturn?

a reply to: flanimal4114

Apparently there is ample water trapped/stored in rock of our Earths mantle. Should said water ever be released in sufficient quantity our oceans would be rather deeper i imagine. So yes our Earth could indeed experience flooding comparable to the events described in our ancient texts.

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord

If we are talking religion I think its important to consider that god has angles to do the flooding and other mass disasters.

Yeah think ice fom space, where is there alot of ice? Maybe saturn?

Okay, let's think that through;

It would have to be a MASSIVE piece of ice to make it through the earth's atmoshpere - though it might explain the endless rain talked about - a large amount of it would have evaporated into the sky as it came through and yes, it probably caused rain.

BUT

The water would have had to go somewhere afterwards, after all the water did recede and the land reappeared. This idea does not allow for that

UNLESS

A huge chunk or chunks of ice hit the sea and caused a global tsunami at the same time as the rain - not sure how plausible that is either

a reply to: andy06shake

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: flanimal4114

Apparently there is ample water trapped/stored in rock of our Earths mantle. Should said water ever be released in sufficient quantity our oceans would be rather deeper i imagine. So yes our Earth could indeed experience flooding comparable to the events described in our ancient texts.

But likely not in the timeframe of modern humans. It's tiny droplets in with the rocks, not a solid body of water. It has been slowly dragged down there over millions, if not billions, of years via subduction and plate movement. It would take something geologically recognisable beyond all doubt to somehow make that water surface I imagine.

a reply to: flanimal4114

The vapour / ice / water canopy theory is physically impossible.

First we got gravity that would bring the whole thing down to Earth.

Second air can hold a maximum of 55g water vapor per cubic metre which would have made the canopy really thick. Such a thick layer would have completely blocked any light from the sun.

Third, even a small amount of extra water would increase the earth's atmospheric pressure which would have killed all animals, including us. And then there was the problem of the temperature of that water falling onto Earth, you can read about it here: www.icr.org...

From a religious point of view: answersingenesis.org...

a reply to: andy06shake

Leaving aside the 'apparently,' how would the suspected water be displaced from within and beneath the mantle? What process or what mechanism could do such a thing?

One thing we do know...us in the UK will be screwed by a serious rise in sea-levels. Doom!!

a reply to: BelowLowAnnouncement

I relies how and where the water vapor is located, volume wise i imagine its rather a dam lot. As to the time frame well thats kind of debatable given the that humanity in its current iteration could quite possibly have be around for a whole lot longer than recorded history suggests and also the fact that most of our ancient religions text pretending to the deluge could be based on earlier religions or historic events that have be lost to history.

There has never been a global flood. To claim otherwise would be to ignore the geologic record and the countless core samples that all indicate no such event has ever taken place.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Could a pole shift somehow influence the trapped water vapor, allowing it to seep in to our oceans? Certainly be synonymous with the current doom porn doing the rounds.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

*BUT*

There are plenty of underwater cities and settlements - some dating back to the last ice age.

I believe the 'great flood' was actually a deluge caused by ice dams braking and flooding low lying valleys. Imagine how difficult it would have been for old noah to find land again if his ark got suck out into say the pacific ocean given that he was not really a sailor.

It could have happened - sort of. As with most bible stories, it is most likely a true story that grew and grew in grandeur as it got passed down from one generation to the next. (We know that it is physically impossible to fit 2 of every animal within the ark's dimenstions in the bible for instance.