Lets settle contrails vs nano dispersion

a reply to: waynos
I reread it and still need clarification.

Can you state the question clearly for those of us that are learning impaired.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: network dude
More cool references
thnx
I has no phone but checkin out the link

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Just trying to be helpful.

There I go again not being clear.

I have no phone nor do I have a desire to own one.

I forgo any benefits that owning one may bring me.

a reply to: deadeyedick

No. It is already written in plain English. I cannot improve upon it.

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: network dude
More cool references
thnx
I has no phone but checkin out the link

www.ebay.com...

Just trying to be helpful.

There I go again not being clear.

I have no phone nor do I have a desire to own one.

I forgo any benefits that owning one may bring me.

I'd stay away from computers too. These days, they are much the same.

Work of the devil.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: 3danimator2014

All I am left with is the thought that water in the sky weighs more than implications of the contrail debate.

I have no idea what questions you think were poorly framed, but in terms of how much do clouds/contrails "weight" - this thread has some "back of the packet" calculations - www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

I made a comment about the conspiracy theory carrying much weight in peoples minds

that was some how flipped into an unintelligible statement about the weight of something or another.

After receiving ridicule for not knowing the answer I have asked 4 times for the question.

I would be glad to try to learn something from this other than the poster can not admit a mistake.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

I made a comment about the conspiracy theory carrying much weight in peoples minds

that was some how flipped into an unintelligible statement about the weight of something or another.

After receiving ridicule for not knowing the answer I have asked 4 times for the question.

I would be glad to try to learn something from this other than the poster can not admit a mistake.

if your first language isn't english, then i apologise. But the comment about the weight was perfectly understandable and very relevant.


if you cannot understand that no plane flying today could ever carry enough chemical to create a trail as long as we see in the sky, then you are being deliberately obtuse. Made worse by the fact that you are pretending that it was phrased badly when its plain for us all to see that it was worded fine.

a reply to: 3danimator2014
strange how I read your post and understood what you were saying.

I can not say the same for the post in question

I guess sky writers are just an illusion

there are several ways that a plane could put these lines in the sky other than condensation

just another shill tactic as suspected

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: 3danimator2014
there are several ways that a plane could put these lines in the sky other than condensation

Such as?

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

dry ice

burning solids

vapor foggers

spraying chemicals

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: 3danimator2014
strange how I read your post and understood what you were saying.

I can not say the same for the post in question

I guess sky writers are just an illusion

there are several ways that a plane could put these lines in the sky other than condensation

just another shill tactic as suspected

Just...stop. Are you seriously comparing this:

www.sky-writing.com...

to this:

contrailscience.com...


one is a little bit of smoke from small canisters from one small plane with a very short total length. We are talking about (and you know this..i dont even know why im answering you still)...HUGE trails coming our of multiple HUGE engines on HUGE planes that are many many miles in length. It is IMPOSSIBLE for ANY plane currently flying, even with everything stripped out of it that isnt necessary for it to fly to carry anywhere enough chems to create those second type of trails for longer than a very short distance. This is 100% fact mate. Kids would understand this.

Sorry for the caps, but i really feel this is the level we have to take with you at this point.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

dry ice

burning solids

vapor foggers

spraying chemicals

Yes..and no plane flying today can carry anywhere near enough of any of those you listed to create trails that would be anywhere near as long as persistent contrails are. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?

tell me, you had a go at me for calling your games childish and you said it was a desperation tactic...so what is calling us shills when we are giving you facts that you are welcome to disprove?

You cant argue with anything we have said, in fact you haven't, all your posts have been pretty vacuous on this matter and now you call us shills....nice

a reply to: 3danimator2014

no that is not true

would you care to speak in terms of distance if you really believe what you are saying is true

10mi.?
20mi.?
50mi.?

I could get the job done

that is beside the point of "heavy metals being sprayed as it would be a bit harder but I could absolutely make a smoke trail across the sky

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
tell me, you had a go at me for calling your games childish and you said it was a desperation tactic...so what is calling us shills when we are giving you facts that you are welcome to disprove?

You cant argue with anything we have said, in fact you haven't, all your posts have been pretty vacuous on this matter and now you call us shills....nice

do not get butt hurt over the use of the word shill tactic

claiming that it is impossible to create a smoke trail across the sky is just a shill tactic formulated to trick weak minds into not understanding very simple concepts

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
tell me, you had a go at me for calling your games childish and you said it was a desperation tactic...so what is calling us shills when we are giving you facts that you are welcome to disprove?

You cant argue with anything we have said, in fact you haven't, all your posts have been pretty vacuous on this matter and now you call us shills....nice

do not get butt hurt over the use of the word shill tactic

claiming that it is impossible to create a smoke trail across the sky is just a shill tactic formulated to trick weak minds into not understanding very simple concepts

1: Please dont use the word butthurt, unless you are 16
2: Where did i say its impossible to create smoke trails across the sky? Can you point me to the sentence that says that please?

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: 3danimator2014

no that is not true

would you care to speak in terms of distance if you really believe what you are saying is true

10mi.?
20mi.?
50mi.?

I could get the job done

that is beside the point of "heavy metals being sprayed as it would be a bit harder but I could absolutely make a smoke trail across the sky

At least 50 miles. Minimum. And from 4 x 747 engines, at 33,000 feet. Please show your working. And then please buy a suit for the multiple prizes/job offers you will win for your impossible feat.

We are waiting

a reply to: 3danimator2014
do not pretend to be butthurt and I will not use it

It seems as though common sense is being withheld from many here

you claim it is not possible to make lines in the sky that look like contrails but I have givin several ways to do so.

if you want to double down on your misunderstandings then just give me some dimensions and I can form a plan to produce trails that look like the contrails.

one easy way to understand it is to think about how much smoke a fire can put off and how long it can burn vs the weight of the materials burnt

one can even go over to some sights that sell fog machines and get a sense of the weight and output of such

you will then see that making white lines in the sky is no big deal and the original comment made in this thread was lacking very much detail.

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: 3danimator2014

no that is not true

would you care to speak in terms of distance if you really believe what you are saying is true

10mi.?
20mi.?
50mi.?

I could get the job done

that is beside the point of "heavy metals being sprayed as it would be a bit harder but I could absolutely make a smoke trail across the sky

At least 50 miles. Minimum. And from 4 x 747 engines, at 33,000 feet. Please show your working. And then please buy a suit for the multiple prizes/job offers you will win for your impossible feat.

We are waiting

why would it be impossible if it happens all the time

you have confused yourself

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: 3danimator2014
do not pretend to be butthurt and I will not use it

It seems as though common sense is being withheld from many here

you claim it is not possible to make lines in the sky that look like contrails but I have givin several ways to do so.

if you want to double down on your misunderstandings then just give me some dimensions and I can form a plan to produce trails that look like the contrails.

one easy way to understand it is to think about how much smoke a fire can put off and how long it can burn vs the weight of the materials burnt

one can even go over to some sights that sell fog machines and get a sense of the weight and output of such

you will then see that making white lines in the sky is no big deal and the original comment made in this thread was lacking very much detail.

NO. I never claimed that. And you know it. I said its not possible to create lines that long and that big across the sky by any of your methods. This is fact.

You casually ignore any word that you dont like in what we write. But those words affect the meaning of the sentence greatly. I know what i said and so does everyone else who reads this. Enjoy your games.

I suppose you are going to ignore my request for how you can create 4 lines over 50 miles long (horizon to horizon is more like 100, but ill be nice to you)

Please show us HOW. Dont just link to dry ice machines and sky writers...

If you cannot, you have lost this argument my friend. Move on.