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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Watcher777
Yeah but that sounds sooooo..... "progressive."
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
I don't care about chronological nonsense.
Apparently neither does anyone else.
You've shot yourself in the foot... Again.
You don't want the left discussing (bring to the foray) racism...
But you're happy to go back 200 years to discuss (bring to the foray) racism.
Get a bandage for your foot, Neo, there is blood on the dancefloor.
Today both parties must remember their past. The Democrats must remember the terrible things they did to Blacks and apologize and the Republicans must remember the terrific things they did for Blacks and re-commit to complete the work that their predecessors started and died for.
Extreme racist black panther wants to KILL white people
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: Watcher777
Yeah but that sounds sooooo..... "progressive."
What? Crying racist because that's what they tend to do.
It's not that I don't agree with Obama; it clearly must be that I am racist ... or so I've been told plenty of times over the course of these last seven years.
Or how about teddy roosevelts anti monopoly and anti big corporation platform?
Would you have supported the emancipation proclamation? Women's right to vote?
Seeing as how you love to defend big corporations I don't think you would. I think you would have hated the 1800s Republican Party
Jackson and others had presented the alternative to slavery as a 1 percent tyranny of big Wall Street banks.
Women’s Suffrage On January 10, 1878 Aaron Sargent, a California Republican, introduced Susan B. Anthony’s women suffrage bill which was defeated by the then majority Democrat Senate. Similar bills were defeated three more times by Democrat controlled Senates and woman’s suffrage only became a reality when it was finally passed by a Republican Senate and Republican House in 1919. [1
On October 8, 1888 Grover Cleveland signed the Chinese Exclusion Act which hampered Chinese migration to America until 1943 about the time another Democrat, Franklin Roosevelt, was putting Japanese American citizens in camps throughout the western states. [2]
The Democrats in Delaware so hated African Americans that they refused to ratify these Amendments and did not do so until 1901.
The Mississippi Democrats so hated their African American former slaves that they did not ratify the 13th Amendment until 1995. The Democrats’ who ran Kentucky in 1865 refuse to ratify the 13th 14th and 15th Amendments and in fact did not do so until 1976. [
The Republican Party had a progressive element, typified in the early 20th century by Theodore Roosevelt in the 1907–1912 period (Roosevelt was more conservative at other points), Senator Robert M. La Follette, Sr. and his sons in Wisconsin (from about 1900 to 1946), and western leaders such as Senator Hiram Johnson in California, Senator George W. Norris in Nebraska, Senator Bronson M. Cutting in New Mexico, Congresswoman Jeannette Rankin in Montana, and Senator William Borah in Idaho. They were generally progressive in domestic policy, supported unions,[17] and supported much of the New Deal, but were isolationist in foreign policy.[18] This element died out by the 1940s. Outside Congress, of the leaders who supported Theodore Roosevelt in 1912, most opposed the New Deal.[19]
Starting in the 1930s a number of Northeastern Republicans took liberal positions regarding labor unions, spending and New Deal policies. They included Mayor Fiorello La Guardia in New York City, Governor Thomas E. Dewey of New York,[20] Governor Earl Warren of California, Senator Clifford P. Case of New Jersey, Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. of Massachusetts, Senator Prescott Bush of Connecticut (father and grandfather of the two Bush presidents), Senator Jacob K. Javits of New York, Governor William Scranton of Pennsylvania, and Governor George W. Romney of Michigan.[21] The most notable of them all was Governor Nelson A. Rockefeller of New York.[22] They generally advocated a free-market, but with some level of regulation. Rockefeller required employable welfare recipients to take available jobs or job training.[23]
While the media sometimes called them "Rockefeller Republicans", the liberal Republicans never formed an organized movement or caucus, and lacked a recognized leader. They promoted economic growth and high state and federal spending, while accepting high taxes and much liberal legislation, with the proviso they could administer it more efficiently. They opposed the Democratic big city machines while welcoming support from labor unions and big business alike. Religion and social issues were not high on their agenda. In foreign policy they were internationalists, throwing their support to Dwight D. Eisenhower over the conservative leader Robert A. Taft in 1952. They were often called the "Eastern Establishment" by conservatives such as Barry Goldwater.[24]
The Goldwater conservatives fought this establishment from 1960,[25] defeated it in 1964, and eventually retired most of its members, although some became Democrats like Senator Charles Goodell and Mayor John Lindsay in New York.[26] President Richard Nixon adopted many of their positions, especially regarding health care, welfare spending, environmentalism and support for the arts and humanities.[27] After Congressman John B. Anderson of Illinois bolted the party in 1980 and ran as an independent against Reagan, the liberal GOP element faded away. Their old strongholds in the Northeast are now mostly held by Democrats.[24][28]