Defeat The Right In Three Minutes

a reply to: kaylaluv

Stop it, just stop I will not fall into your emotional trap.

I will never refuse a man asking me for food because he's hungry, instead of giving him money I'll goto the closest burger joint or what have you and get the man some food. More often than not I get turned away at that point or even cussed at. No I don't want them to starve, but I want them to earn the pleasantries we all earn, so it has value, so time becomes valuable. This is what our society is about, love is spelled time and time has value.

originally posted by: introvert

If we are ever going to once again prosper as a nation and as people, we must begin to call a spade a spade. We must expose the extreme Right-Wing for what they are. They are not true conservatives. They do not care about individual rights, liberty or what's best for the people they represent.

Some rock solid examples might be in order.

Ones that are unique to your definition of "extreme Right-Wing".

a reply to: introvert

They do not have a problem with big government, if it serves their goals. They do not have a problem with government spending, as long as it benefits their masters.

The left sure doesn't now do they ?

Done it two seconds.

For years I have been hearing the left tell me how much better than the right they are.

7 years now I still haven't seen it proven.

a reply to: Indigo5

You're neglecting the GDP growth of 4-5% per year during the war, some of which is certainly due to the 1% of GDP per year spent on the war.

Regardless of this, who in the hell ever said that to be anti-wealth redistribution you had to be pro-Iraq War? I certainly didn't. I've been fairly consistent in saying I think war is a piss poor way to spend tax dollars unless the USA is claiming spoils from those wars. If DC wants to fight the world in a self-funding, economically beneficial manner, have it it, Chiefs! Similarly, the profit side is what's missing from welfare spending (and yeah, I noticed you're rolling with Social Security and Medicare... the only trow federal welfare programs which are designed to be self supporting, require input from the recipients, and shouldn't cost the tax payer a cent... as opposed to all the subsidies, the ACA, and the other actual entitlement programs out there.)

Try again.

a reply to: introvert

You still haven't figured it out yet have you? Both right and left are different wings of the same bird,two sides of the same coin ect.....,both sides are controlled and so is all the presidential elections, what better way to control the people than with sports, beer, and the illusion of choice?

This has been a rigged game for decades and all the fools continue to vote because they think the choice is theirs to make,but they are wrong the NWO chooses their puppets ahead of time and they are rigged to win. Why do you think that JFK and Lincoln are the only presidents to be successfully assassinated?

Hint it was because they ran afaul of the orders they were handed.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: muse7

Way to contribute!

More pigeonholing tactics it's insanity, I try not to engage as much these days in partisan threads they become asinine so quick..

a reply to: introvert

The article seems to lay EVERY THING at the GOPs feet . Well the DNC is knee deep in it also .

The article is hinting at all capitalism is bad but the real demon is crony capitalism which is fed and coddled by both of the parties .

So you need a really good slogan - a "counter-slogan" really, to "deprogram" the brainwashed. You need a "magic bullet" that quickly and efficiently destroys the effectiveness of their "drum beat". You need your own "drum beat" that sums up the right's position. Only your "drum beat" exposes the ugly reality of right-wing philosophy - the reality their slogans are meant to hide. Our slogan contains the governing concept that explains the entire right-wing agenda. That's why it works. You can see it in every policy, and virtually all of Republican rhetoric. And it's so easy to remember, and captures the essence of the Republican Right so well, we can pin it on them like a "scarlet letter".

Great Idea slogans instead of facts. Truth is better but truth you can not play with emotions which it seems are played on a regular basis .

Excuse me while I drink some more partisan politics koolaid mmm good hits the spot.

Cheap Labor Conservatives.

What a joke ask any small or medium business man whats killing them. Taxes , fees, licenses , business insurance , ssi ,fica ect unemployment insurance , not the actual cost of labor. Mr pen and phone could have helped them out but just the sound of crickets .

Ever look how much the department of education actually spends on administrative people ? Some districts teachers make 50,000/y while the administrator knocks down 300,000+/y and the teaching is heavy with DNC so isnt this cheep labor in action?

Have you noticed alot of BIG DNC donators are pushing for a big expansion of visas for math science and tech positions while 90% of USA born grads cant get those jobs. These same companies are laying off US workers and refilling the position with CHEEP FOREIGN LABOR !


Excuse me while I drink some more partisan politics koolaid mmm good hits the spot.

a reply to: TechniXcality

In 2012, there were more than 20 million people in deep poverty (earning 50% below the poverty line). You gonna buy all of them a burger?

What are we AS A COUNTRY going to do with those 21 million people? Ignore them?

a reply to: kaylaluv

They aren't ignored, so your premise is false. However we certainly aren't going to open the purse anymore that's for damn sure.

a reply to: kaylaluv

If we drop medical supplies and food in a third world country, and warlords pick it up and steal it. Are we ignoring the third world people? Better yet, are we secretly supplying the warlords, it was all planned right?

a reply to: TechniXcality

If the right had their way, they would be ignored. If the right had their way, we would just leave them to "do more and try harder". And if they can't or don't know how to do more and try harder than they already are? Screw 'em, says the right.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TechniXcality

In 2012, there were more than 20 million people in deep poverty (earning 50% below the poverty line). You gonna buy all of them a burger?

What are we AS A COUNTRY going to do with those 21 million people? Ignore them?

They've had 3 years to get above the poverty line. What have they done for themselves? What are the figures now?

You think throwing money at them is the right answer? I'll take some, or better yet why not drop prices on things people need? Why are prices so high on necessities?

Prices keep going up on everything...the answer is not to throw money at it.

People who give like to see positive results...so in 3 years, what's the poverty level now? How has giving for the last three years worked out?

a reply to: kaylaluv

Like I said the majority feel social programs have some merit we just disagree on how far reaching they should be, the right is not calling for people to be starving and freezing to death in the streets.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TechniXcality

In 2012, there were more than 20 million people in deep poverty (earning 50% below the poverty line). You gonna buy all of them a burger?

What are we AS A COUNTRY going to do with those 21 million people? Ignore them?

The better question is:

What *have* we *been* doing AS A COUNTRY for the last 50 years?



Failure, Inc.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's because there will NEVER be a perfect thriving economy where everyone will get the perfect job making the perfect salary. There will always be a percentage of the population that will be unable to earn a living wage. What to do with those poor unfortunate souls? The right wants to ignore them. The left wants to share the wealth and help them, still encouraging them to get on their feet with free education, job training, etc.

Unable, or unwilling?

Anyone here has the same opportunity to start a small business, work hard, and make as much money as they are willing to work for. OR....you could sit on your ass and wait for someone to hand you some welfare.

There are some that cannot work and THOSE people are what the system is for. NO they won't live a lavish lifestyle, they will just get by, but then, they don't have to go to work every day and make the right choices.

And yes, it really is that simple.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TechniXcality

If the right had their way, they would be ignored. If the right had their way, we would just leave them to "do more and try harder". And if they can't or don't know how to do more and try harder than they already are? Screw 'em, says the right.

What "Right" legislations can prove your opinions are actually true?

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Who knows, census figures haven't come out for 2015 yet.

So, in your opinion, what is the answer to more than 20 million in poverty?

a reply to: network dude

Maybe they are trying to take care of their kids, so they don't have time to work 60-80 hour work weeks.

Poverty is a women's issue; female-headed families are more likely to be poor.

In 2012, over five million more women than men were living below the poverty line; and two million more women than men were living in deep poverty. For women aged 18 to 64, the poverty rate was 15.4%, compared to 11.9% for men of the same age range. At 11%, the poverty rate for women aged 65 and older is almost double that of men aged 65 and older—6.6%.

Families headed by a single adult are more likely to be headed by women, and these female-headed households are at a greater risk of poverty. Almost 31% of households headed by a single woman were living below the poverty line—nearly five times the 6.3% poverty rate for families headed by a married couple. For households headed by a single male, 16.4% were living in poverty.

nclej.org...

a reply to: kaylaluv

In addition, it said, there was no meaningful change in the official poverty rate — 14.8 percent in 2014. About 46.7 million people were in poverty, the bureau said.

Uninsured Numbers Drop as Poverty Rate Holds Steady

Big Government Failure.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Who knows, census figures haven't come out for 2015 yet.

So, in your opinion, what is the answer to more than 20 million in poverty?

Why ask me? I'm not in poverty. AsK them. I don't have that answer...I do work hard and live within my means. My wife started her own business with no money and is successful.

In your opinion has the handout program worked? If not, then why put more in?