Defeat The Right In Three Minutes

originally posted by: ketsuko
How to defeat the left. Use math. Observe.

The problem is that everyone needs $20. Person A has $40 and Person B has $0. Solve the problem.

The problem is that everyone has $20. Person A want 1 Million. Hmmm. All that money circulates through government taxes, how about Person A buys themselves some politicians. Some deregulation of the markets so they can ahem..."invest" that $20 dollars for everyone...if person A loses the bet, ask the Pols they own to take more money by force and just give it to them..and hey...let's just borrow from that handy savings account (SS) that they gov set up for them so we can go invade some countries for some sweet oil deals....

When bills come do...eff you...your not getting your money back. I stole it fair and square.

a reply to: kaylaluv

When will the magic man in the sky come and save us from our evil ways?

Silly question, all systems can improve no system is measured in perfect condition they're measured by effeciantcy. Currently our system is the most effeciant system. Of course things can get better however in a perfect static world can anything change?

originally posted by: Lomento
Ahh the internet, where destitute liberals go to win at things.

Nice driveby....topic averted.

Anywho.....

originally posted by: introvert
So what can we do about this?

Why not just ignore the propaganda and tactics used to convince us there is any difference between republicans and democrats.

They both serve roles in fulfilling the same SINGLE agenda.

You're asleep, if you fall for these tricks. Wake up and stop letting them use you to do their dirty work.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's because there will NEVER be a perfect thriving economy where everyone will get the perfect job making the perfect salary. There will always be a percentage of the population that will be unable to earn a living wage. What to do with those poor unfortunate souls? The right wants to ignore them. The left wants to share the wealth and help them, still encouraging them to get on their feet with free education, job training, etc.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's because there will NEVER be a perfect thriving economy where everyone will get the perfect job making the perfect salary. There will always be a percentage of the population that will be unable to earn a living wage. What to do with those poor unfortunate souls? The right wants to ignore them. The left wants to share the wealth and help them, still encouraging them to get on their feet with free education, job training, etc.

So let everyone that wants to contribute do so and those that don't shouldn't have to. Your opinion is to just take it regardless?

a reply to: TechniXcality

Can we get past the superficial BS and address the matter at hand. Not once did I say that we need to use this particular tactic. I was addressing the content within the source. Not the tactic that the source offers in return.

Why have very few actually addressed the points provided, or at least tried to debunk them?

Do you refute anything that was posted in the source? If so, what in particular.

a reply to: kaylaluv

"The right" once again this ominous foreboding concept. The right doesn't want to slash all wellfare, there are some small percentage of people who feel that way, though the majority realize in a moral civil society you can't have people dying in the street from starvation, or older folks dying from the heat and cold, and yet our social security is continuously dipped into by the government which is over reaching and most would say that. This seems like projection more than anything.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's because there will NEVER be a perfect thriving economy where everyone will get the perfect job making the perfect salary. There will always be a percentage of the population that will be unable to earn a living wage. What to do with those poor unfortunate souls? The right wants to ignore them. The left wants to share the wealth and help them, still encouraging them to get on their feet with free education, job training, etc.

The difference here is the "right" isn't trying to force the other side to do anything with their money whatsoever. The "left", however, has taken it upon themselves to dictate what the other side will do with their money. I'll be blunt, I don't give a crap if someone decides to take their entire net worth, liquidate it, and then run through skid row throwing fistfulls of their own cash hilly nilly. IT ISN'T MY MONEY, SO IT ISN'T MY BUSINESS. All I ask is that the "left" leaves me the hell alone. I think that's what the vast majority of the so-called 20% in America want... to be left.the.snip.alone.

a reply to: introvert

The premise is false, why should I be pigeonholed into the opposing side of a contrived argument?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: TechniXcality

Can we get past the superficial BS and address the matter at hand. Not once did I say that we need to use this particular tactic. I was addressing the content within the source. Not the tactic.

Why have very few actually addressed the points provided, or at least tried to debunk them?

Do you refute anything that was posted in the source? If so, what in particular.

Nobody CAN do this because it is an article based on an opinion and interpretation of the writer. There are no "facts" in it. It is the writer stating what they think the right is all about and pigeonholing every repulican into the exact ideology they would like them to be. The fact is everyone is an individual, and while some may lean right I would highly doubt there is any one person in particular that fits the exact mold the OP source has written in.

The reason debates like this occur is because there is no definitive line for any of this....people have differing opinions on differing topics....there is no single point of view.

If the article was based on fact then there would be sources cited from published journals and texts....there are none....it is all opinion based.

a reply to: TechniXcality

The post I was responding to said that the right will create a thriving economy so every person can make their own money. It just ain't that simple, is it?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've just proven my point - the right wants to ignore the plight of the people who can't find a job that pays a living wage...

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've just proven my point - the right wants to ignore the plight of the people who can't find a job that pays a living wage...

Why can't they with all the jobs the left claims to have created?

Hell....why can't they create their own? My wife and I created our own....it isn't that hard.

Ridiculous really....people expect to be handed something and have their hand held to make it work. When is personal responsibility going to become reality for them? Never.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: ketsuko

So when is the right going to create this thriving economy you speak of that will give jobs to every single person alive? Oh and not just a job, but a job that pays a living wage to every single person alive?

The only way that could happen is if and when the left gets out of the economy altogether.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

It is opinion, but that does not mean there is not content in that piece that is worth considering and debating. I happen to think there are many points listed that show the hypocrisy.

Also talks about the language and propaganda. But we're not willing to look at any of it because of what you just posted?

a reply to: xuenchen

It's more likely that slavery would return if that happened.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Vasa Croe

That's because there will NEVER be a perfect thriving economy where everyone will get the perfect job making the perfect salary. There will always be a percentage of the population that will be unable to earn a living wage. What to do with those poor unfortunate souls? The right wants to ignore them. The left wants to share the wealth and help them, still encouraging them to get on their feet with free education, job training, etc.

The difference here is the "right" isn't trying to force the other side to do anything with their money whatsoever.

Are you auditioning for comedy?

Maybe explain the bank bailouts to me? Where the money came from and where it went? Or how about the invasion of Iraq? Was that free? If not who paid for it? Who pays for tax breaks and subsidies to corporations?
This is going to be a long list...are you sure you meant to say that?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: xuenchen

It's more likely that slavery would return if that happened.

But traditionally, the left governments have exploited slavery.

And still do.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've just proven my point - the right wants to ignore the plight of the people who can't find a job that pays a living wage...

How hard are they looking? How much effort are they investing? What is their definition of a "living wage?" Have they tried to make personal changes, including location, to make themselves more marketable? You're partially right, I don't give a tinker's damn about any self-created "plights" of those who start and stop by looking for someone to give them money. I care quite a bit about the plight of someone doing their absolute best to get ahead and struggling... but that's such a minor percentage these days. We live in a world where "stress" can and has qualified someone for disability payments...

I believe it would be utterly amazing to watch how quickly jobs were found, ailments healed, and laziness cured if subsidies, welfare, and nanny-ing was cut off for a couple of months. "It's a miracle!" I could shout, as people recently in a supposed "plight" were magically able to bend their backs, do a day's work, and earn a day's paycheck.