Irving 9th-grader arrested after taking homemade clock to school: 'So you tried to make a bomb?'

I guess Texas should ban rasberry pi. It looks quite similar to the one this boy made.

originally posted by: Boeing777
I guess Texas should ban rasberry pi. It looks quite similar to the one this boy made.

Yeah...I thought the same thing when I saw his clock.

Hahahahaha just shows we are moving towards idocrazy. Poor kid has been bullied by the system, just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to paranoia in the USA.

just wish i could find the bloom county strip where oliver actually made a working nuclear bomb for show and tell.

still, what the heck? this kid uses his brain and makes a clock should be rewarded! not criminalized!

Case in point:



Having seen this, instead of immediately understanding something basic, namely, a lack of explosive material, the Boston cops said:

After the devices were removed, the Boston Police Department stated in their defense that the devices shared "some characteristics with improvised explosive devices," which they said included an "identifiable power source, a circuit board with exposed wiring, and electrical tape." Investigators were not mollified by the discovery that the devices were not explosive in nature, stating they still intended to determine "if this event was a hoax or something else entirely." Though city prosecutors eventually concluded there was no ill intent involved in the placing of the ads, the city continues to refer to the event as a "bomb hoax" rather than a "scare."

There you go. To a cop, and to a Boston cop who you'd hope would be a bit more on point than the usual backwoods LEO, all it takes for something to be a bomb is a battery, a circuit board, wires, and tape.

Frankly, how they make it through the day remembering to breathe is a mystery to me. Present company excepted, of course.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

you're probably more correct then all of us should be comfortable with.

That this is wrongful persecution, and yes, I used that word deliberately. This kid was profiled. Seems little doubt of that.

...and unfortunately, there will be a small minority, though a noisy one, that will support this travesty.

Yet another example of how much events of fourteen years ago have changed all too many of us, and not for the better.

Indeed, the terrorists may have won. If they, by their actions, have reduced all too many of us to this sort of stupidity.

People/teachers... are paranoid, on edge, and want to save and be the first to report? don't look like much, at first glance, I am no expert, but I would think it needed more to it, to even be confused as a bomb and this was the lesson in the class? The teacher wasn't privy to?

I think they took it a bit far, no? But I sure am not surprised, if he was under surveillance, He, because of the fathers doings? and they (LE) got the report for the son's alleged "bomb" and? I don't know scary times!

What next, Arresting a student going into home ecconomics with a pair of salad tongs because they could be used in the construction of a pressure plate for a IED.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
What next, Arresting a student going into home ecconomics with a pair of salad tongs because they could be used in the construction of a pressure plate for a IED.

I just hope my house never gets raided...my pressure cooker I use for green beans is nefarious....would suck getting caught with it in my car on the way to a cookout as I often do.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TheBulk

Really? Can you link us to some other events where a kid was arrested and escorted out of school for trying to assemble an electronic device on his own?

There are dozens of stories out there about kids being suspended or arrested for innocuous things like chewing a pop tart in to the shape of a gun. It's only ever a sign of how evil and racist America is when it happens to a kid who isn't white. When the kid is white, well that's just dumb people in the school district.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TheBulk

Really? Can you link us to some other events where a kid was arrested and escorted out of school for trying to assemble an electronic device on his own?

There are dozens of stories out there about kids being suspended or arrested for innocuous things like chewing a pop tart in to the shape of a gun. It's only ever a sign of how evil and racist America is when it happens to a kid who isn't white. When the kid is white, well that's just dumb people in the school district.

While you may have a small point here, this particular case is a very obvious sign of bias. If the teacher had even taken a second to ask the kid what it was and have him demonstrate it as a clock it would have likely been a pat on the back and good job rather than arresting a 14 year old for a science project.

originally posted by: C21H30O2I
People/teachers... are paranoid, on edge, and want to save and be the first to report? don't look like much, at first glance, I am no expert, but I would think it needed more to it, to even be confused as a bomb and this was the lesson in the class? The teacher wasn't privy to?

I think they took it a bit far, no? But I sure am not surprised, if he was under surveillance, He, because of the fathers doings? and they (LE) got the report for the son's alleged "bomb" and? I don't know scary times!

Sad that it is the case, but it would seem that this teacher was not educated enough to realize that other materials are needed for a bomb than a circuit board and USB connections. Common sense SHOULD be used but wasn't at all.

Now if the kid had wires pushed into some kind of putty or attached to a metal tube of some sort then I would think there would be cause for alarm. As it is, that thing looks about as menacing as my old blackberry that is in my drawer at home...scary!

a reply to: Bedlam

LOL...reminds me of the thread we had about the bomb on an Atlanta overpass that ended up being a camera for a grad student project. Bomb squad called in and detonated it. I know it's better safe than sorry, but some things are just ridiculous.

Good grief, lawsuits for all involved..poor kid. Way to suck the life and creativity out of someone. I guess that is the goal.
I guess the fear mongering works.

The first stumbling block is that many cops are not that smart. This type of action is to be expected. They need to be accompanied by someone to act as an adviser for normal things.

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Krazysh0t

We really don't know that ALL evidence points to the kids innocence. We don't know WHAT (if any) comments this teenage boy may have said previously. Are they talking of the current events of refugee crisis in Europe? Did a classroom discussion of 9/11 cause him to make a statement that gave the teacher further cause of suspicion.

Being a teacher today IS different. You are not just entrusted w/academics and social aspects of students development, they are charged with student safety. Who among us would want to err the wrong way? To have an incident happen and NOT to have pointed it out and had others in the school get involved.

The teacher no doubt alerted the prinicipal who felt the need to call the local police who in turn acted. The question to ask is WHY they all acted as they did (and "dumb" public school union teacher, and dumb, Texas Islamophobe cops is the easy, yet equally bigoted answer). Allowing an investigation, a timeline, interviewing the other students all must come into the full story (which may or may not ever be told because the kid is a minor).

Jumping to PC conclusions is sometimes what is intended after all.

I really commend your approach. I starred your first post. This is the mindset we need when going into something like this. HOWEVER, another poster addressed much of what you said here:
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1084517/pg3#pid19817767

So it seems the only reason he was arrested was because the alarm went off in english class and the teacher was suspicious it was a bomb so let the principal--and in turn the cops--know. He first showed it to his engineering teacher who told him not to show it to the other teachers--presumably because it looks like a bomb?

So just given the evidence we have now it looks like the he was arrested merely because the other teachers thought it was a bomb. What I don't understand is why didn't the engineering teacher share what he/she knew with everybody? I think if this is really what happened then they it's a result of lack of communication and overreaction.

Broadly, schools are becoming paranoid trying to stop more shootings. Instead of inspiring they're oppressing?

originally posted by: roadgravel
The first stumbling block is that many cops are not that smart. This type of action is to be expected. They need to be accompanied by someone to act as an adviser for normal things.

LOL! Now that would be funny. Cop comes in and can't understand the situation so he calls in an adviser...

originally posted by: jonnywhite

originally posted by: Glinda
a reply to: Krazysh0t

We really don't know that ALL evidence points to the kids innocence. We don't know WHAT (if any) comments this teenage boy may have said previously. Are they talking of the current events of refugee crisis in Europe? Did a classroom discussion of 9/11 cause him to make a statement that gave the teacher further cause of suspicion.

Being a teacher today IS different. You are not just entrusted w/academics and social aspects of students development, they are charged with student safety. Who among us would want to err the wrong way? To have an incident happen and NOT to have pointed it out and had others in the school get involved.

The teacher no doubt alerted the prinicipal who felt the need to call the local police who in turn acted. The question to ask is WHY they all acted as they did (and "dumb" public school union teacher, and dumb, Texas Islamophobe cops is the easy, yet equally bigoted answer). Allowing an investigation, a timeline, interviewing the other students all must come into the full story (which may or may not ever be told because the kid is a minor).

Jumping to PC conclusions is sometimes what is intended after all.

I really commend your approach. I starred your first post. This is the mindset we need when going into something like this. HOWEVER, another poster addressed much of what you said here:
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1084517/pg3#pid19817767

So it seems the only reason he was arrested was because the alarm went off in english class and the teacher was suspicious it was a bomb so let the principal--and in turn the cops--know. He first showed it to his english teacher who told him not to show it to the other teachers--presumably because it looks like a bomb?

So just given the evidence we have now it looks like the he was arrested merely because the non-engineering teachers thought it was a bomb. What I don't understand is why didn't the engineering teacher talk with the others? I think if this is really what happened then they it's a result of lack of communication and overreaction.

Broadly, schools are becoming paranoid trying to stop more shootings. Instead of inspiring they're oppressing?

Star...because I am shocked that someone actually read the source article. Typically posts are made only from reading the OP. Nice to know that there are those that read the source. I always try to, unless there is enough info presented in a thread or the entire source is copied into the thread.

I agree with your assessment as well.

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

There ya go...

originally posted by: roadgravel

They led Ahmed into a room where four other police officers waited. He said an officer he’d never seen before leaned back in his chair and remarked: “Yup. That’s who I thought it was.”

There ya go...

Nice....

It does make me wonder if there was some other instance with this kid prior to this one though. I would really think that common sense would prevail in a case like this, but I have yet to hold my breath for it.