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US and Russia should have permanent daily diplomacy meetings. Human life being disregarded

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 06:49 AM
Why on earth with things in Syria and Ukraine the way they are, are the US and Russia not in daily meetings to discuss ways to end the bloodshed together? At the very least the discussions would help each Nation know what the other is doing even if we disagree it could help reduce tensions and possible escalation.

Russia and the US could together find a way to end these problems if they work together to do so. Nothing either side does should be a surprise to the other. Each side may not like the actions of the other but at least we would be in discussions about it, status updates and negotiations could eventually lead to some areas we can work together.

Bottom line is this back and forth MSM bickering is not enough. Human lives are on the line and this should be taken seriously as serious as anything ever. We need to agree to meet daily, have entire teams working toward finding ways to work together even if we can't we should be trying.

The world cannot have US and Russia going at each other. Dam it these people in villages lives matter as much as any including Putin, Obama and their families.

How can we demand this happen? At lest try. US Politicians have given up and are ok with status quo as long as they can get reelected. Sure Trumps ideas may be far fetched but at least he has not given up and has a fire in his belly to try. We need leaders who will try and not be Jaded by years of doing nothing. This is why no one likes Bush or the others, they are all just more of the hum drum same ole same ole.

We need fire and brimstone in our leaders to save our country and the world from ourselves.

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 07:10 AM
a reply to: Xeven

Well it started out as an interesting question up to the point you rode it off the rails at the end by blaming the US and ignoring Russian politicians. So in the interest of both arguments being represented -

The bloodshed in Ukraine started when Russia invaded and illegally occupied Ukrainian territory. When Russia threatens the use of nukes in an effort to hold onto their occupation it becomes even more problematic. There is not one but 2 agreements now that the rebels / Russia routinely violate. You want the bloodshed in Ukraine to end - Russia needs to withdraw their troops.

We wanted to stop the Syria issue however some countries refused to sign on. Russia / Iran is involved (after 4 + years) with their only goal of keeping Assad in power.

Russia maintains rebels in E. Ukraine have a right to do what they are doing yet somehow that position changes for Syria.

The foreign policy of Russia is not compatible with the US and vice versa.

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 07:21 AM
Because bloodshed = money, which makes the world go round. There's no one to blame apart from the corporations and banks that feed and grow from things like these

Come on you surely didn't think it's as simple as kiss and make up to end these wars. I'm afraid it doesn't work like that
edit on 16-9-2015 by ThePeaceMaker because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 07:49 AM
a reply to: Xeven

Its simple Russia is interested in helping Assad and USA is interested in funding ISIS...oop, I meant the Syrian Rebels. So it would be counter productive for either side's agenda to work out a diplomatic solution.

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 07:52 AM
a reply to: Xeven

you're right but...

money > life, peace, nature, freedom etc.

it's that simple.

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 08:06 AM
What is their to meet about? We know Russia wants to keep parts of Ukraine and the US wants Russia to give back the parts they have taken. Not much to talk about unless Russia wants to leave or Ukraine wants to give up parts of its country.

In Syria it is pretty much the same. Assad is falling and the Russians want a seat at building the new government and some continued arms deals. They need to slow Assads fall to give talks time. Once that is done, ISIS will still have to be finished off along with dozens of other factions. Once that is done new fighting will begin over power sharing what parts of Syria are going to leave. Of course if ISIS feels to much pressure in Syria they might head out break into Lebanon or head back to Iraq and extend the war there. And Russia also has a problem if ISIS falls apart because the largest amount of foreign volunteers for ISIS have from Russia. And Russia really does not want them all coming back anytime soon.

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 08:09 AM
Just imagine....

The world's super powers decided to share their toys instead of jealously guarding them like a tempestuous toddler. There could be a synergy for positive change and peace for everyone.

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 08:22 AM
I think robots may be making the decisions at some point, meaning we are all just part of an ever changing equation of war which must be won for some reason or another. In the end we may end up fighting against some doomsday machine. I know the technology is getting more advanced and it isnt steered by the checks and balances of our civilian populations, meaning various governments are cutting corners and developing new things we could never imagine not only because they can but also because the other side may have it too. Eventually we will have to face our own creations whatever they may be.

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 10:50 AM
The Ukraine is more a European problem, which is why the Europeans have led the talks with the Russians and the European sanctions have greater impact on the Russians. In reality, Russia fear economic stagnation, so their gripe is with the EU and not NATO, although clearly the NATO thing sounds more exciting.

With Syria, the problem here is that Russia is prolonging the problem. I would be quite happy for the place to be abandoned, but look at the human cost.

posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 07:37 PM
To swing us somewhat back around to the op topic -

'Tacit' deal between US, Russia to end Syria war: Assad adviser

Damascus (AFP) - Russia and the United States have reached a "tacit agreement" on ending Syria's bloody crisis, a senior adviser to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has said.

"The current US administration wants to find a solution to the crisis in Syria. There is a tacit agreement between the US and Russia to reach this solution," Bouthaina Shaaban said in an interview with state television late Wednesday.

"The US recognises now that Russia has profound knowledge of this region and a better assessment of the situation," she said.

"The current international climate is heading towards detente and towards a solution for the crisis in Syria."

Shaaban said there was a "change in the West's positions" over Syria's war, which has killed more than 240,000 people and displaced millions since 2011.

Russia, a decades-long backer of Syria's regime, has said it would not accept Assad's departure as a prerequisite for launching any peace process in the war-torn country.

While the United States has called for Assad's ouster for more than four years, Secretary of State John Kerry said last week that "it doesn't have to be on day one or month one or whatever."

On Wednesday, French President Francois Hollande called for a new Syria peace conference "so that all the countries who want to see peace restored in Syria can contribute."

While Hollande maintained that there could be "no transition without (Assad's) departure," German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Thursday that the Syrian leader should be involved in the talks.

"We have to speak with many actors, this includes Assad, but others as well," Merkel told a press conference after an EU summit on the migration crisis sparked by the Syrian war.

The diplomatic flurry came amid concerns about increased Russian military support to Assad, including Moscow's announcement Thursday that it would hold naval drills in the eastern Mediterranean region in September and October.

On Wednesday, the Syrian military deployed Russian-supplied drones for the first time, a security source in Damascus said.

The army has received new weaponry from Russia for its fight against jihadists, including at least five fighter jets, a senior Syrian military official told AFP.

edit on 24-9-2015 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

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