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Iran isn't inspecting it's own nuclear sites...

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posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 10:38 PM
Back in August 19, 2015, AP posted a news article stating Iran will be inspecting their own nuclear site via a secret deal that not even the US knew about. Truth is, this is false but the problem is many people now believe with this Iranian nuclear deal Iran will be inspecting it's own nuclear sites (plural, as in all nuclear sites), which couldn't be further from the truth. So let's get caught up on the facts.

The original AP story that mislead everyone (via the ATS thread created from it).

Wow: AP Confirms Secret Side Deal Allows Iran to Inspect Itself at Key Nuclear Site

Iran, in an unusual arrangement, will be allowed to use its own experts to inspect a site it allegedly used to develop nuclear arms under a secret agreement with the U.N. agency that normally carries out such work, according to a document seen by The Associated Press. The revelation is sure to roil American and Israeli critics of the main Iran deal signed by the U.S., Iran and five world powers in July. Those critics have complained that the deal is built on trust of the Iranians, a claim the U.S. has denied.

What I discovered in a few minutes after reading the article (on page 2 of said thread).

It's all in the article. Parchin is the controversial site that was once thought to be home to Iranian nuclear testing, well not nukes themselves but rather high explosive detonators. The Iranians are said to have abandoned their nuke program in the early 2000's and Israeli/US Intel agencies agree.

Its a military site so it's understandable why the Iranians don't want foreigners inspecting it, because what nation would allow foreigners to inspect their military bases? But back 2005 Iran allowed IAEA inspectors to visit Parchin to build trust with the UN. It isn't a nuclear site.
"The IAEA was given access to Parchin on 1 November 2005, and took environmental samples: inspectors did not observe any unusual activities in the buildings visited, and the results of the analysis of environmental samples did not indicate the presence of nuclear material"

Of course this is being spun as something nefarious but, again, intelligence agencies conclude Iran has no nuke and doesn't have a nuke program.

And AP's correction story that so many people have either missed or willfully ignore.

Correction: Iran-Nuclear story

VIENNA (AP) — In a story Aug. 19 about an arrangement over alleged past nuclear weapons work between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency, The Associated Press erroneously referred to Parchin as a "nuclear site. In fact, it's a military site where some believe nuclear work occurred.

A corrected version of the story is below:

An unusual secret agreement with a U.N. agency will allow Iran to use its own experts to inspect a site allegedly used to develop nuclear arms, according to a document seen by The Associated Press.

The revelation is sure to roil critics who argue the deal is built on trust of the Iranians.

The investigation of the Parchin military site by the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency is linked to a broader probe of nuclear weapons allegations.

Took me literally a few minutes to discover what this alleged nuclear site really was. Is AP really that lazy or purposely misleading the public?

So when discussing the Iranian nuclear deal don't be that guy spouting off that it's a bad deal because Iran will be inspecting it's own nuclear sites because that's complete fiction. Surprise, Iran doesn't want foreign entities inspecting their military base, which is one of their biggest bases. Shocker, I know.

The IAEA will inspecting Iranian nuclear sites.

Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action

“The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) advances critical U.S. interests related to preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons, strengthening global nuclear safety and security, and promoting the peaceful applications of nuclear energy. Founded in 1957, the IAEA is the global focal point for supporting the safe, secure, and peaceful development and use of nuclear science and technology. The IAEA contributes to a central U.S. national security objective: Preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons. It applies nuclear safeguards — consisting of monitoring, inspection, information analysis, and other activities — to detect and deter the application of peaceful nuclear activities to weapons-related purposes.” 

“All spent fuel from the Arak reactor that could be reprocessed to recover plutonium will be sent out of the country, and all of this will be under a rigorous IAEA inspection regime.” — E.M.

“Much has been made about a possible 24-day delay before inspectors could gain access to suspected undeclared nuclear sites. The IAEA can request access to any suspicious location with 24 hours’ notice. This this deal also creates a new mechanism to ensure that the IAEA gets the required access and sets a firm time limit to resolve access issues within 24 days. We have very high confidence that nuclear material used for advancing a nuclear program will detected in this time frame.” — E.M.

So in conclusion, reading is fundamental.
edit on 4-9-2015 by Swills because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 10:55 PM
a reply to: Swills

I willfully ignore anything Iran states as truth. They use a totally different dictionary.

Edit: does the US Government.
edit on 4-9-2015 by NewzNose because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 10:57 PM
a reply to: NewzNose

Well, good to know you embrace ignorance, but your willful ignorance is clearly ignoring the facts at hand.

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:05 PM
S&F for thread but let's face facts its a waste of time trying to tell people what they don't want to hear. Too many people just blindly believe what they have been told by people who didn't read the deal simply because they have the Iran is bad mindset. Just look at how many members in this forum that keep repeating the this deal is a pathway for Iran getting the bomb delusion.

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:09 PM
a reply to: Swills
Why should the US be involved in Iran's affairs?
What authority do we have to sign such a treaty?

Let Iran do what they want, and if/when they start a war, then we worry about it. Pre-crime laws don't stop crimes any more than treaties stop wars.

We need to be concerned about our own security. If we are worried about what Iran might do, then we need to prepare for that. Slutting ourselves out with hollow diplomatic agreement will only guarantee war with the parties involved.

No one is ever going to be satisfied with the terms of agreement or the inspection process, so why sign a covenant on false trust?

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:12 PM
a reply to: buster2010

Oh I know. This type of behavior can be seen in other political subjects and it's funny to see such posters embrace ignorance on a site whose motto is to deny said ignorance.

But after reading so many posts by members repeating the same nonsense I had to create this thread just to put it out there in the abyss that is the internet because I can only hope they were unaware of the facts and misled by lazy (or nefarious) reporting.

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:12 PM
a reply to: Swills

It is easy to get distracted by the physiology
of individual tree's and other species between the
plates of a microscope
when one is wandering through a forest.

Hey look, even the Non members of the IAEC are listed for your convenience!
How about that.

Someones got 80 nukes " Don't ya know".
How's that for a nice arms race inciting next door neighbor?

So that is 15,695 Nuclear Weapons "Reported".
You are talking Megaton, Kiloton, Multiple Warhead, and other unspecified
deliverable systems.

It should be mentioned that there are numerous locations around the world
that are a potential "Nightmare Scenario" such as :

Not to mention that No One knows what to do with the waste:

PDF link : German Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology
(you may have to search once at link as info is semi guarded),bereich=bmwi,sprache=en,rwb=true.pdf

Is the anybody out there?

S&F I hope the links are corrected now for your thread and my replies as well Swills.
This topic is way above the heads of party politics.
I have great reservations regarding having to predict and prove this to you all.

edit on 4-9-2015 by Wildmanimal because: fix link?

edit on 5-9-2015 by Wildmanimal because: I Care

By the way I have access and hard copies of the German Ministry of Economics and Technology
report if any fine thinkers out there would like me to send via certified mail.

I have always been truthful and provided "enhanced targeting" with my words here on ATS.
Check out my credentials , time stamps, responses,and ensuing coincidences.

Pass it Forward

edit on 5-9-2015 by Wildmanimal because: Tune it up correctly

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:14 PM
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Well, while many would agree with you about the US stop policing the Middle East the fact is we are and Iran is in our cross sights. So this deal has to happen otherwise Israel and friends will continue to war monger that Iran is just weeks away from the bomb and sooner or later war will ensue. Just look at how fast Iraq was invaded back in 2003, comparatively Iran is long overdue, according to Netanyahu.

So this deal will ensure Iranian nuclear inspections so wars are started because of warhawks speculation.

posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:18 PM
a reply to: Wildmanimal

One of your links doesn't work but I get your gist. My support of Iranian inspections is to quiet the warmongering of politicians seeking war with Iran. By now, we all should be war weary but many right wingers aren't and they need to be quelled. That's why they hate this deal.

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posted on Sep, 4 2015 @ 11:49 PM
There is no pain you are receiving.
No distant ship on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move, but I can't hear what you're saying.

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:19 AM
a reply to: Swills

My point is that we are so tied up in knots over what Iran might or might not do, that now we have drawn up a contract that will ensure we go to war. Israel isn't going to stop whining either way, so what good does this do? Eventually someone going to start complaining about the inspections, they'll jump the gun, then next thing you know the P5+1 nations are at each other's throats. We have officially involved a multitude of foreign nations in one single agreement. We were better of when Iran was "weeks away" from a nuke.

We don't need this treaty. What we need is a leader who will beef up military and keep them at home on standby indefinitely. You don't draw your gun untill you're ready to shoot.
edit on 5-9-2015 by BELIEVERpriest because: added point

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:50 AM
What if nuclear weapons don't actually exist? What if its all been faked?

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 12:58 AM
a reply to: sophie87
I would be disappointed. All this tension and no nuclear firework display to show for it?

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 01:04 AM
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

That is a horrible thing to say!
edit on 5-9-2015 by sophie87 because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 03:41 AM
a reply to: Swills

Iran isn't inspecting it's own nuclear sites - Perhaps thats because they have run out of nuc scientists because many of them have met mysterious deaths in the last year or so. I wonder who was behind that?

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 08:14 AM
a reply to: sophie87

There are worse ways to die. I'd prefer nuke over invasion and enslavement.

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 08:32 AM
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Is that because you're waiting for Jesus to bring forth Armageddon?

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 09:57 AM

I really like the cute cartoons from the White House.


posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 10:18 AM
a reply to: xuenchen

Cartoons? More like simplistic pictures for people to understand what the deal represents, you know, since most Americans have attention span of a goldfish.

What these pictures clearly don't represent is science...

posted on Sep, 5 2015 @ 11:18 AM
a reply to: Swills


Bible swingers will never believe on FACTS. Because the facts don't matter to them anymore!

The Phantom Menace: Fantasies, Falsehoods, and Fear-Mongering about Iran's Nuclear Program
edit on 5-9-2015 by mekhanics because: (no reason given)

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