Who is the 'they' that conspiracy theorists so often refer to?

It seems to have different meanings to different conspiracy theorists:

'Illuminati' (However each one defines that.)
Freemasons
Jesuits (and other Vatican agents)
Jews
Communists
Rothschilds (and other powerful families)

We could go on with the list but what's the point? We can't prove that any of the above are really in charge, can we?

I'm going to present two different views on this matter that I think have merit just to get a discussion going. The first one is Alan Moore's view on this issue. I think if you just look at the surface of things, he's exactly right.


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“In the mid 1980's I was asked by an american legal institution known as the Christic Legal Institute to compile a comic book that would detail the murky history of the C.I.A., from the end of the second world war, to the present day. Covering such things as the heroin smuggling during the Vietnam war, the coc aine smuggling during the war in Central America, the Kennedy assasination and other highlights.

What I learned during the frankly horrifying research that I had to slog through in order to accomplish this, was that yes, there is a conspiracy, in fact there are a great number of conspiracies that are all tripping each other up. And all of those conspiracies are run by paranoid fantasists, and ham fisted clowns. If you are on a list targeted by the C.I.A., you really have nothing to worry about. If however you have a name similar to someone on a list targeted by the C.I.A., then you are dead.

The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory. The truth is far more frightening.

Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless…”
― Alan Moore

If you look deeper, more at the spiritual aspect, in my opinion the Illuminati card game gives a different picture of what Alan Moore described. The cards from the game show you the apparent "chaotic" nature of the world exactly the way Moore described it:


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I think the following card tells us who "they" are (in the sense of the game, the 'Illuminati'):



Is that really an alien? It may be a person dressed in an alien costume. I think that's irrelevant to the message conveyed in the card. I believe that the message is that an apparent alien presence is the "they."

What is in those bags? The bags are marked with dollar signs but as we all know, central banks create 'money' and it has no value outside of human belief. The card above would be meaningless if what's in the bags is 'money' (as represented by dollar signs) because the governments that are accepting the bags can create as much of that as they want.

My theory about the card above is that what's in the bags is the entire Illuminati game (as represented by everything in all the cards from the game). The governments want that because if everyone is playing the game, their power is strengthened and entrenched. In other words, as long as everyone is playing the game, they stay in power. The card's name is "Foreign Aid." I believe that that's because what's in the bags is foreign to this earth. If you study the cards from the Illuminati card game, I think you'll find that probably everything in the cards is foreign to this earth.

If you look at the dollar sign from a different perspective, putting dollar signs on the bags could make perfect sense. I believe one way to look at the dollar sign is a capital "S" with two prison bars in front of it. That could represent the reptilian part of our nature (with the capital "S" being symbolic of a snake) being trapped in the matrix system. That's real money for the system because if our minds aren't trapped in the system, the fake fiat money that the governments produce would cease to have any meaning IMHO.

But, IMHO, the fine print of all this is where everyone's being tricked. As long as everyone is playing the game (by following the various paths described in the cards) then the apparent alien presence is truly in power. My take on this is that it was the alien presence that designed the game (and all of its accompanying parts) for it to stay in control. Everyone playing the game (including everything portrayed in all the cards from the game) is being duped.

BTW, that would include me.

The following video gives a hypothetical account of the kind of thing the card above could be describing:

Chief - animated short film by Paris Tosen

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a reply to: Profusion

Thank you for bringing this up. Especially the part about the world being rudderless. It's a scary propsition, but it's true.

It's all one big house of cards.

Personally, I try to find humor in whatever I can. It makes it easier to live with.

originally posted by: Peacetime
a reply to: Profusion

Thank you for bringing this up. Especially the part about the world being rudderless. It's a scary propsition, but it's true.

It's all one big house of cards.

Personally, I try to find humor in whatever I can. It makes it easier to live with.

I would say it is bridgeless and, thus, has no place for a commander.

It certainly needs no powerplant upgrade.

“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting.

Comforting?

I don't think so...

A Satanic cult has colonized the earth. This is the key to understanding history and avoiding the pitfalls of modern "cult--ure."

Humanity is Satanically Possessed

"The illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramus brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities exsisted. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."

Illuminati Roots

The Illuminati is a very covert satanic cult which dominates global commerce and the military / industrial complex. It's hierarchy is composed of thirteen bloodline families whose ancestry is traceable back to the Babylonian era.

STOP MISLEADING the CHILDREN

The core of the control over Planet Earth's populace lies in ancient cults. These cults are still in existence to this day.

Pseudoreality and The Governing of The Committee of 300

How about Banker/ Globalists? That's what some of us refer to "they" as.

"They" could also be reptilians/reptoids or alien grays for others.

Might want to say instead of Jews, say Zionists, as it's that is what many refer to.

My theory about the card above is that what's in the bags is the entire Illuminati game (as represented by everything in all the cards from the game). The governments want that because if everyone is playing the game, their power is strengthened and entrenched. In other words, as long as everyone is playing the game, they stay in power.

Something like that may in fact reflect what it is. Some theories are shared after the fact.

originally posted by: Peacetime
a reply to: Profusion

Thank you for bringing this up. Especially the part about the world being rudderless. It's a scary propsition, but it's true.

It's all one big house of cards.

Personally, I try to find humor in whatever I can. It makes it easier to live with.

Seems to me that if the World is truly rudderless then we win. We certainly are not in control(you and I) so if it is out of control then it is better for us.

a reply to: Profusion

For me
90% bankers
10% paid for politicians.

I used to care about their little clubs and try to figure it all out, but now I just care about Justice.

Add - If we audit the Fed and Wall Street. Even if we have to subpoena it we can get names. Don't need to hack anything, but I think we have a right to know how much money these guys are making. Don't you?

a reply to: Murgatroid

I want to elaborate. I've no idea how much my opinion is shared on this matter. I don't really want to know because sometimes ignorance really is bliss. That said, I'm finally going to reveal how much I believe that the Bible is an accurate book in its history and prophecy.

As for the OP, You need no other book than the Bible. You will get an accurate sense of what's happened in the world, and what's to come. You wonder who the "they" are, or the "1%" people talk about. No one that's willing to can give you their names, or their identities. These people are beyond world governments and the laws of this world. Maybe the illuminati are the group. Maybe it's the masons. I don't know. I'm not brilliant enough to see through the masterful smokescreens that are thrown up.

But I do believe that all anyone has to do to get a sense of what is to come is pick up one book.

a reply to: Profusion

Whatever you want to call them they would be the ones at the top of the pyramid ponzi scheme that has been ruling this planet for 1000's of years.

The words "Death people is everywhere" come to mind....

They = corrupt officials with ties to "the mob"... The mob = illuminati (see murgatroids post)....

Not all mobs/mafias are corrupt. Some are anti illuminati... But the Illuminati mob appear like any other crime syndicate, they just have more political power... That's my interpretation of who " they" are.

a reply to: Profusion

They are a group of people who work together controlling the worlds scenario's and keeping you as a slave.
They retard your brain with things like lead, fluoride, carbon monoxide genetically modify the grains you eat, They do not filter out the 70 thousand contaminants in your water supply they hide the cures for ailments that keep you ill and age you before your time. they create the wars to kill your children control the media to keep you dumb, brainwash you into thinking about racism how many of you see racism when children are at playschool

I've just been watching Dick Gregory and he refers to the magical glasses basically meaning If you have got them on you can see the truth of the world.
the rest of you who don't think things are manipulated just don't see it and this is why this world is so full of the evil that controls us all.

They are just a bunch of families who control your Life Have a look at the connections who own the companies banks and tell your governments what to do. there are some simple ways of seeing this world is screwed Operation Gladio is where your militaries infiltrated protest groups with there soldiers and started killing people, even the governments banning Boron as it allegedly disrupts fertility yet boron deficiency causes the majority of arthritis I could go on but this is something you have to work out yourself.

Look how many people think fluoride is good for you yet there has never been one scientific test conducted by any health agency FDA included that has proven it's safety and yet in the national library of medicine there are 40 papers written on its toxicity What government would do that to its people if it were not being controlled?

then research the lower families like the rothschilds and rockerfellers who are just major criminal families who get so much money they can just own companies as well as the du ponts, bushes and other Illuminati families as you know them

originally posted by: EternalSolace
a reply to: Murgatroid

I want to elaborate. I've no idea how much my opinion is shared on this matter. I don't really want to know because sometimes ignorance really is bliss. That said, I'm finally going to reveal how much I believe that the Bible is an accurate book in its history and prophecy.

As for the OP, You need no other book than the Bible. You will get an accurate sense of what's happened in the world, and what's to come. You wonder who the "they" are, or the "1%" people talk about. No one that's willing to can give you their names, or their identities. These people are beyond world governments and the laws of this world. Maybe the illuminati are the group. Maybe it's the masons. I don't know. I'm not brilliant enough to see through the masterful smokescreens that are thrown up.

But I do believe that all anyone has to do to get a sense of what is to come is pick up one book.

Ok this is one way of looking at it,
yet this attitude will people who employ this outlook on life and get you killed before your time we should live around 120 years perhaps longer if some of what I research turns out to be true, you will also believe in the fear tactics they employ on you like 9/11 was done by Muslims (dividing us with fear and racism) or that the Japanese were a threat (or the Russians) rather than the fact they had surrendered before they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

This attitude will get you ill because you do not educate yourself and then trust a doctor who will give you a pill that does not cure you only relieve your symptoms, This attitude will have you drinking tap water, eating soy products feeding your children grains which will alter their hormones and turn them gay, watching TV which is there to dumb you down and condition you turning you narcissistic. you will take the vaccinations they tell you to rather than research them and enter into a lottery with your childs life in seeing if they have the immunity to withstand the formaldehyde that can cause leukemia and hence disregard the improvement in health which has come with increased hygiene standards.

Your life will be controlled by fear which is subliminally put there so as to keep you not questioning your life and why we live like this why you pay taxes to the government who then give the money to militaries and pharmaceutical companies why you have to pay a bank 3 times what a house is worth and therefore be kept tied to debt throughout your life instead of gathering 4 or 5 other people around you and going to college for a year each and learning to build your own house between you. In England I believe a house costs around a 1000 pounds a square foot to build including the labour Obviously I could go on but you get the picture

a reply to: Profusion
Alan Moore was an Illuminatist. In V For Vendetta he professed his love for Aleister Crowley, as V quotes him.


In The Watchmen he made Ozymandias the secret hero, a German who genetically engineers fake aliens and kills millions in order to unite the world under his world government. Notice the symbolism on his chest (and elsewhere):


And of course he wrote the sadist book Lost Girls, about underage girls being raped and abused. Some Gottfried Helnwein sh## right there.

Fear is an excellent salesman. The product could be crap in a bag. And in my opinion conspiracy is commonly, but not always, a product of lack of information on any given subject given forth by a salesman trying to sell you or steer you.

I have given up on fear. There are likely many things that are out there that may harm my life, health, or lifestyle, that I have no control over short of vain attempts at course correction.

But dwelling on unfounded unsubstantiated conspiracy is a burdon I cant spend much of my remaining time on this earth on.

And now when I hear the phrase "well, people are saying...", I become unfettered to the cause as those "people" are in reality referring to the masses in herds of facebook inductees and the likes that are faceless to me and without merit.

Life is short, even for those that conspire against us and humanity.

2c

I swing towards 'they' being the banking cartels. They seem to exert such control, it's unreal. I guess that's the point you're making. While I can't discount alien influence and I find the idea amusing and almost attractive, I don't think that's what's happening. I believe they're out there, but if they have a hand in our world, I believe it would be more of power partnership than a role of full control. I reckon the banksters have us by the nuts. Are they colluding with other lifeforms? Who knows. If a higher power joined Earth, you can bet the banking families would be all over it and, I suspect, not for the betterment of the masses.

a reply to: Profusion
My personal list:
The Fed
Big oil
Military Industrial Complex
The rich elite
The Illuminati (yes, I believe they exist)
The UN
and a few others that I'm too lazy right now to check the spelling on.

SgtCursed

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a reply to: Profusion

" They " are i suspect closely related to that person commonly called " some c#nt " you know , that person that breaks or loses everything .

I am the head of the Illuminati.
Pedal to the metal, baby.

It's plain clear to see that "they" refers to the ants.

Isn't this the reason why so many here on ATS prophesize "The ant of the world"?