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originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: reldra
Actually, not always. There are some students who wouldn't be able to.
Wouldn't be able to what?
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: DelMarvel
originally posted by: reldra
It's detailed, but it's their course to teach and those who don't want to take it don't have to.
But it goes beyond that. There are classes that students are required to take where this occurs. There are even majors where professors will come right out and tell students they will have trouble passing courses because they are white, especially white males.
I have a family member who was forced to change majors at a large state university because of this.
There are core classes that should not have a slant- like Algebra 101 for instance. There is a complaint process if that happens. No one forced your your family member to change anything, they just didn't follow the complaint process or sue.
That is an anecdote and I am not sure that actually happens.
I have a relative who was told he would have trouble passing the courses needed to get a Social Work degree because he was a white male.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: bastion
OK, explain to me how you participate in a gender studies class and study gender if your teacher does not let you use gender terminology without it lowering your grade?
originally posted by: bastion
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: bastion
OK, explain to me how you participate in a gender studies class and study gender if your teacher does not let you use gender terminology without it lowering your grade?
You use wit and vocabulary to find the appropriate terminology, if someone lacks the basic skills to do that or respect for their professor and university syllabus they clearly lack the basic skills, respect or personality for the profession.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Don't like the class requirements; don't take the classes.
Feel like the class requirements are discriminatory or compromising one's civil rights; take the appropriate legal action.
Postulating and posturing here makes little difference. One never ceases to be amazed at how much "libertarians" want to meddle in other people's lives.
originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: infolurker
They don't have to take these classes. None of them seem to be a class where the requirement can't be met by another. Judging by the titles of the courses, I would imagine the professors are fairly strict in what they see as inappropriate.
To defer would mean to understand their experiences as real. Also, the professor who doesn't like male/female, prefers men/women. I think because male/female would make assumptions about preferences, such as the color pink or blue.
It's detailed, but it's their course to teach and those who don't want to take it don't have to.
originally posted by: bastion
So people are asked not to be rascist or sexist in a course on social issues and people on here are complaining? No wonder the stereotype of Americans is fat, stupid and ignorant.
Deferring clearly means allowing the chance for those who've faced oppression to voice their own or others' experiences so the whole class benefits, same thing for shyness - it's how to level out white privilege. As for gender issues, only the West considers a Male/Female divide, most cultures have 4 - 7 different genders, plus it's rude to not use someone's name; especially if they're in the room.
If a student lacks basic manners, social skills and respect for others then why would any Uni want to give them a degree in that field - someone harbouring those views is a danger to society and would remove all credibility from the University.
EDIT: I'm a white, border-line middle class straight male who's been a support worker for 7 years now and know hundreds of others (roughly 50/50 male/female ratio) -manners aren't determined by colour of skin or gender - either your mate was lying or it's a one in a million case where trying to achieve equality goes wrong.
originally posted by: bastion
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: bastion
OK, explain to me how you participate in a gender studies class and study gender if your teacher does not let you use gender terminology without it lowering your grade?
You use wit and vocabulary to find the appropriate terminology, if someone lacks the basic skills to do that or respect for their professor and university syllabus they clearly lack the basic skills, respect or personality for the profession.