New York Magazine is carrying a very interesting story this morning regarding the views of one Donald John Trump as they pertain the fallout from The
Donald's incendiary comments about Mexican immigrants to the United States.
For the few who might have been in a 28 Days Later style coma for the past
couple of months... The Donald said the following during his Presidential candidacy announcement:
While many ( or most ) in such a position might think "Oh, I said something provocative about Mexican's, so it makes sense that Mexican companies
might take umbrage." Not The Donald! Nope!
If you are The Donald - you are thinking on an entirely different level! If you were The Donald - the "truth" is far more conspiratorially juicy and
If you are The Donald - you blame... BUSH!
That's right. Jeb Bush! But not just Jeb. Nope! Too easy! You blame Jeb, his Hispanic wife Columba and, just to make things really interesting... You
toss in the second richest man in the world, one Mr. Helu - a Mexican billionaire known to the
masses as Carlos Slim.
While Trump assured me that he thinks Bush is “a nice person,” he has told friends in private that his animosity is personal. According to one
friend, Trump blames Bush and Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim for Univision’s decision in June to cancel a $13.5 million contract with Trump to
televise his Miss USA pageant. Five days later, Slim scrapped a deal with Trump to develop shows in Mexico. Trump responded by filing a $500 million
lawsuit against Univision. “Trump believes it all goes back to Jeb,” the friend says. “He thinks Jeb and his wife, Columba, are close with
Carlos Slim and Univision got pressure from Slim operatives.” In a move that further confirmed Trump’s suspicions, Univision has hired Miguel
Estrada, a Washington lawyer with deep Bush ties.
Ah, this is the stuff that conspiracy theorists live for! High intrigue at the pinnacle of wealth and power, a man who either has no filter or is the
possible King of trolling, emotional issues, international players, and the list just keeps on giving!
And to make it even more sweet and savory, The Donald is not taking it sitting down! Even better considering that the whole thing might just be his
own paranoid fantasy!
When — if? — Trump withdraws from the campaign, he will no longer have a ready landing pad on television. (His Apprentice deal with NBC has
been canceled, too.) This is a prospect that is likely terrifying for Trump — and should, in turn, be terrifying for Bush. In a recent phone call
with a longtime friend who has been acting as an informal adviser, Trump warned: “If I’m going down, then Bush is going down with me. He’s not
going to be president of the United States.”
Amazing! Shakespeare, right this second, is rolling in his grave, screaming "I WOULD HAVE WRITTEN A STORY LIKE THAT IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN, ONE DAY,
THE WORLD WOULD GET THAT INSANE!"
As a modern human being who dabbles in writing fiction ( badly ), if my imagination had come up with something like this, I'd have avoided writing it
- as it's too surreal. I would assume that nobody would be able to suspend disbelief enough to buy into it... and that is coming from a guy
who once wrote a hamfisted fourth wall diatribe about a guy named Oliver Klossoff - if that helps put this statement into perspective.
But, wait, don't dial yet! Before ordering this already incredible deal for the low, low, low price of just $19.99 - THERE'S MORE!
There are conspiracy theories about The Donald's conspiracy theory!
Who's to say there's not some truth to it? We know the Bush family has some ties to folks like the Bin Ladens, so it's not a stretch to think they're
connected in some way to a billionaire [ as in "I know a guy who knows a guy ] who doesn't want the U.S. to crack down on immigration, or the American
people to be any more riled up about it. Which The Donald seems to be good at.
Meh..it's politics and even if not true, at least entertaining.
Not to mention that Bush is all for amnesty which would continue to allow a more or less unchecked flow of cheap labor (and the cartels) across our
Trump has thrown out incendiary language on the matter which would not be good business for countries South of the border who fuel large portions of
their economy through money their illegals send home from the US.
Ergo, Bush would be sympatico and Trump may not be.
The Trump, and the Clintons slobber over each others privates.
He's thrown (again) a bit of pocket change toward the election to throw the GOP into disarray.
closer to the election, he will disappear and leave the clueless voters nothing left but to vote for clinton.
after that he will get a huge return on his investment.
If Reagan's appointment years ago didn't show the populace the US govt is a sham, nothing will.
A plague on both their houses.
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Weren't we talking not long ago about how nobody in the Republican primary actually seems to have a problem with anything Trump is saying so much as
with the fact that non-white voters are hearing him say it? But now look at this, Trump is calling Bush out for punishing his bad behavior (whether
Bush actually did or not).
Maybe I'm clinging to a theory at this point, but I still kinda feel like it's possible that Trump is a Bush plant (it's not as though the Bushes and
Clintons were completely separate camps afterall)- that he's allowing JEB not to be like his brother by getting to the right of the shock mongers and
wearing them out, so that JEB can stand alone when Trump withdraws and leaves the radicals to choose between the mainstream Republican candidate or
crossing the aisle.
To be clear, I don't believe I've stated any position about Trump being a plant, though I have conversationally explored the idea... though I cannot
recall if I have done so in threads on ATS or not.
My core belief is that Trump announced as a publicity stunt and then, due to the overwhelming support from the right, became serious and began
engaging in a chug-a-thon, drinking as much of his own Kool Aid as he can possibly consume.
I think he's a creature of ego and, as the wise know, live by the sword, die by the sword... thus Trump's ego is the very thing that will destroy his
I would argue Mr. Trump is being "The Donald" ... I sincerely believe that his "media personality" took over any real personality he had years ago.
He's portraying a character rather than being a person.
I believe that Mr. Trump is a creation of many trends in American culture ... political, social, and even economic.
He's brash, controversial, outspoken, and he has (whether you are attracted or repelled) incredible personal magnetism.
NO ONE on the current Presidential landscape touches him on any of those points. The next closest I can think of were Reagan and Bill Clinton.
(Certainly not Hillary, good gravy what an utterly BORING individual.)
The Donald is riding a wave of popular American enthusiasm. Personally, I hope that the typical "15 minutes" of attention the American people give
will soon be over.
Not that I mind the idea of Washington politics being shaken to the core. There is a certain side of me that "wants to watch the world burn" at least
in terms of "politics as usual."
But The Donald? Sweet Random Chance!
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
As a British man, I can only speculate from the outside. From what I can see so far, you have the same sh#t. , different election. Just the same as
The very word 'democracy ' has become a joke.
The US is a Republic.
(I mean no disrespect, but someone was bound to do it.)
I'd argue that the support for The Donald is overwhelmingly "democratic" ... exactly the kind of democracy that so concerned the Founders ... folks
who will vote against their own best interests. But that's my take only.
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