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originally posted by: yulka
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
No you use them all, Virgin Mary, God and Jesus. Who do you pray to?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
I asked what you believe in, where your faith is, not what you believe.
You believe Jesus Christ is our lord and savior. But from where and what did you get the idea that Jesus Christ is our lord and savior? That is what you believe in, which I bet is not too much.
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
originally posted by: TinkerHaus
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: TinkerHaus
What's ridiculous is how the Christian God has changed over the last couple of thousand years, and how there are so many interpretations of the texts that are allegedly written through divine inspiration
If the Christian God has changed over the last couple thousand years so much to where you believe it is ridiculous.....Please do share...
I know of 1...Yes 1 Christian (hint) God from the last couple thousand years, and his name hasn't changed one time!
No, but his opinions and outlook on humanity have.. The way he deals with sin and what actually constitutes a sin have..
Have you ever compared the "God" in the Old Testament to the "God" in the New Testament? Looks to me like "God" experienced a real emotional breakthrough.
Or the interpretation of words changed....One of the 2...
You can't seriously read the Bible and take it for what it says, do you? I would almost bet you have no clue other than what you have heard on these boards by saying what you are saying....
You did a 180 degree backflip when I asked you about what you said already and I still don't believe you even know what I am talking about above....Sorry
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Just because you can't see'm LM, doesn't mean he's pretending to
not be there.
originally posted by: yulka
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
Meaning you left the Catholic church and became a orthodox christian?
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: stormson
1: Our ideas of what "God" is evolve as we evolve.
To who exactly?
2: "God" is a construct that we use because we don't understand the nature of existence but as humans we seek to understand and categorize things. As a child "God" certainly could be parents, because as an infant or young child you do not have the intellectual ability to look beyond your parents when questioning who created, provides for, and answers your "prayers."
Um....I never once called my parents God....Not one time, nor did I ever pray to them....
3: As an infant, without someone else putting this idea into your head, you have no knowledge of, and therefor no regard for a god. Your god is your parents, which as you said at that point in a child's development have no beginning and no end.
Honestly, as an infant nothing of this nature ever crossed my mind....EVER
4: The continued need for a a sentient consciousness that created everything and watches over us with infinite wisdom is infantile. Some things are just unknown - and if there is a higher being, or a group consciousness, or whatever it may be, it definitely has not been identified and explained by humans.
So if you don't believe God created Man, please do explain....Feel free to get all scientific on me as well....I am all ears
5: LOL at the butthurt. So much LOL.
Us on the other side of the coin are really praying for you.....Really...
originally posted by: randyvs
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Just because you can't see'm LM, doesn't mean he's pretending to
not be there.
It was supposed to be funny!
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: TinkerHaus
Not repeating myself to you as well....My answers are here for you guys to attack me...
Bring it....I love this!! I think you people think I will back down because you say something about Jesus or the Bible.....
2 of you have been here long enough to know me by now....
originally posted by: TinkerHaus
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: stormson
1: Our ideas of what "God" is evolve as we evolve.
To who exactly?
2: "God" is a construct that we use because we don't understand the nature of existence but as humans we seek to understand and categorize things. As a child "God" certainly could be parents, because as an infant or young child you do not have the intellectual ability to look beyond your parents when questioning who created, provides for, and answers your "prayers."
Um....I never once called my parents God....Not one time, nor did I ever pray to them....
3: As an infant, without someone else putting this idea into your head, you have no knowledge of, and therefor no regard for a god. Your god is your parents, which as you said at that point in a child's development have no beginning and no end.
Honestly, as an infant nothing of this nature ever crossed my mind....EVER
4: The continued need for a a sentient consciousness that created everything and watches over us with infinite wisdom is infantile. Some things are just unknown - and if there is a higher being, or a group consciousness, or whatever it may be, it definitely has not been identified and explained by humans.
So if you don't believe God created Man, please do explain....Feel free to get all scientific on me as well....I am all ears
5: LOL at the butthurt. So much LOL.
Us on the other side of the coin are really praying for you.....Really...
You demonstrate an inability to understand what is being said here.. I'm unsure how much clearer I can make it.
I'm not saying this to be rude or disrespect you, but I cannot find better words that are less...severe, so I'll just say it: Your obtuseness, be it genuine or otherwise, is most likely the reason you are so gullible to accept the teachings of whatever religious flavor you subscribe to.
originally posted by: yulka
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
i give up.... Dont forget church on Sunday, i think you shouldnt study the bible alone. Ask the priest he can help you.
originally posted by: TinkerHaus
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: TinkerHaus
Not repeating myself to you as well....My answers are here for you guys to attack me...
Bring it....I love this!! I think you people think I will back down because you say something about Jesus or the Bible.....
2 of you have been here long enough to know me by now....
You've explained nothing and you at no point answered the questions I gave above.
You are backing out because you can not/will not "win" this argument. You say "keep it coming" but you side step every reasonable question that's been directed at you. Again, I don't mean to disrespect but your attitude is very typical of people who unquestioningly believe what their church has force fed them.
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
originally posted by: yulka
a reply to: stormson
Anyone who is self providing, their God is Earth, for Chrisfishenstein its the Jews. So God is a Jew for chris
Hint.....That is NOT my name....Just my internet id.....By the way, I am not Jewish...
You can try to bash me all you want, but until you actually prove or tell me why I am wrong I will take what you both are saying with a grain of salt....Wait, been doing that already
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
originally posted by: TinkerHaus
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: TinkerHaus
Not repeating myself to you as well....My answers are here for you guys to attack me...
Bring it....I love this!! I think you people think I will back down because you say something about Jesus or the Bible.....
2 of you have been here long enough to know me by now....
You've explained nothing and you at no point answered the questions I gave above.
You are backing out because you can not/will not "win" this argument. You say "keep it coming" but you side step every reasonable question that's been directed at you. Again, I don't mean to disrespect but your attitude is very typical of people who unquestioningly believe what their church has force fed them.
There is this thing....It has pages on it.....Try it once, and see how I have explained myself....Not doing it again to appease you, sorry....
I don't have in depth translations, interpretations, bible camps, priests....I don't know what to tell you man....Just read...I thought I was pretty clear on my views here.....Sorry I am not spouting religious quotes (other than 2) or what you are looking for here....