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Itisnowagain:
Thought just appears - watch closely and notice that you cannot possibly know what thought will arise next.
arpgme: Some people can.
It's called having focus/concentration/self-control.
It isnowagain:The true self can only be AWARE of what is arising.
Here is what might arise when you realize that what you really are is just aware.
You cannot control anything - you are just seeing the show.
If what is showing, is stories about how life could be better, stories about 'me in time', stories and ideas about how to make the world a better place - then that is what is filling the screen of awareness - but if it is realized that what I really am is the entire screen - the stories tend to drop away and what is here and now can be seen in it's true glory. Then there is clear seeing, clear hearing of what there really is - without the veil.
originally posted by: mrwupy
Sidhartha himself said that once you obtain enlightenment, nothing changes.
If you woke up on a Tuesday morning and had to feed the children, get everyone dressed to go to school and work and then go make money to keep it all going, came home that night and achieved enlightenment, You'd wake up Wednesday morning and still have to feed the children, get everyone dressed and go out and make the money to keep it all going.
Enlightenment doesn't change the world, it changes you.
originally posted by: arpgme
a reply to: mrwupy
Enlightenment doesn't change the world, it changes you.
And therefore it changes the world by changing how you interact with it.
originally posted by: mrwupy
Enlightenment doesn't change the world, it changes you.
originally posted by: Profusion
According to the verses above, Christians would claim that one cannot have 'enlightenment' (which they would define as faith in Jesus) without specific action ('good' works).
Itsnowagain: Does getting a joke require any action or absence of action?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: vethumanbeing
Have you ever 'heard' a joke told and everyone is laughing but you?
Did you do something to not get the joke? Did the other people do something to get the joke?
The joke is either 'got' or not!!
As you proclaim to be an OBE suicidal expert in 'forever' side effects of a 'hanging' incident; why are you still hanging around? Your idea of 'forever' is an individual take on your own soul experiences has nothing to do with the random soul progressions of others. There is an ugly nature at work here boozo and you own it.
originally posted by: boozo
I don't think Enlightenment is the goal of the game.
Listen folks!
As an OBE(Out-of-Body-Experience) Expert.
I will teach you the easiest way to do OBE.
But there's a side effect: It's gonna be forever.
Hang yourselves.