F-22 providing situational awareness for ISIS strikes

This sort of reminds me of the A-10s humble beginnings.

originally posted by: jaxnmarko
a reply to: Zaphod58

So we are risking our very few, very expensive new planes because we are fighting that ultra high tech armed and dangerous group of ..... barbarians? With AKs and some of our taxpayer paid for low tech weaponry lost by out taxpayer paid for trained Iraqi troops? And we really really need that extra edge because our air superiority is in question there and they've been shooting down planes left and right? Our pilots aren't even allowed to drop their bombs or fire their missiles half the time. Send in the A-10s and shoot up their Toyota trucks with .50s mounted, the hummers that have been taken, and quit screwing around. Let our pilots do their jobs as they know how to do. We shouldn't need our F22 for this job. Situational awareness....... the Shiites don't want to fight for Sunni countryside. The Kurds want their own area (and country) and don't care about Sunni countryside. The Sunni.... are mad at the US for allowing the Shiites to take control of the corrupt government and ignore the Sunnis and the Army is crap and full of corruption. And numbers of American lives lost and trillions spent later.... here we are! That's the situation I'm aware of. The F22 is great I hope. The F35..... I have plenty of doubts. But this is a ragtag bunch of barbarians with low tech weapons and quite a reputation against a 3 Stooges Iraqi army, brave Kurds, and a populace very tired of war. Do we need the F22 there for practice? What's our cost per kill? An unlimited number of idiots wanting to join ISIS against multimillion dollar missiles and very costly to operate jets and equipment. We are going broke (read:borrowing from the Chinese, our good friends) because we destabilized an entire region. Hooray for the Defense Corporations! They win again!

Well it is certainly a good time to combat test its systems so they will be ready when in higher threat environments.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Alright Zap, here's a tech question for ya regarding the 22 and the 35s. Are they using purely TADIL-J for the radar linkup or is it going to be a J main with a TADIL B backup?

a reply to: kingofyo1

TADIL-J. Sort of. They started testing a new waveform for it last year that converts it to LPI, so they can use it to talk to other aircraft.

I'm not able to start a new thread yet. But I came came across this article today.
New U2 Optionally Manned Platform

Lockheed’s vaunted Skunk Works is setting its sights on developing a successor to its venerable U-2 Dragon Lady spy plane and Northrop Grumman’s RQ-4 Global Hawk high-altitude, long-endurance (HALE) drone. This new aircraft will seemingly take the best of the unmanned and manned features of both aircraft, and fuse them into an updated stealthier airframe able to penetrate enemy airspace if need be.

This is directly challenging the Global Hawk platform and puts pressure on NG as they need the revenue from the Hawk and Triton assuming they loose the LRSB contract.

Yet what makes this announcement so interesting is that it seems this new U-2 and RQ-4 follow-on will be stealthy in nature, yet utilize so many components purpose built to fit within the confines of the U-2’s unique airframe. This includes multiple ungainly sensors that were never designed to be low-observable or to fit into a low observable craft for that matter.

a reply to: Zaphod58

The main problem with the F-35 is that it is NMBB. (Not Made By Boeing)
Boeing supporters have been slandering the F-35 for years, because if the Navy and Marine versions are cancelled, there will be no choice other than to buy more F/A-18's.

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: Zaphod58

If more of this kind of infromation about the F-35 gets out, maybe the people who have been trying to torpedo this program could get drowned out a bit.

It's been discussed. People want it to tank, so they refuse to listen.

originally posted by: Sammamishman
This is one of those capabilities that the 5th gens. bring to the game that a lot of people don't realize. The F-22 is good at this, the F-35 will be spectacular at this.

Won't the 'enemy' just come up with radar technology that can detect the F22 and F35?

Shouldn't be too expensive either.

a reply to: purelifee

Just because you can make a statement about "radar technology that can detect the F22 and F35" doesn't mean it's possible, easy, or inexpensive, or any combination of those. Fundamentally reduced radar cross section (stealth) reduces detection ranges. Fundamentally radars which are designed to mitigate stealth (for example, much lower frequency radar, bistatic radar, optical systems) have their own respective issues.

originally posted by: purelifee

originally posted by: Sammamishman
This is one of those capabilities that the 5th gens. bring to the game that a lot of people don't realize. The F-22 is good at this, the F-35 will be spectacular at this.

Won't the 'enemy' just come up with radar technology that can detect the F22 and F35?

Shouldn't be too expensive either.

Yeah, Stealth was developed because it's so cheap and easy to counter it.