"This Privately Owned Business is a Muslim Free Etablishment"

Growing up, my father was a small businessman. He always kept a sign up in his shop "We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone".


Also, growing up.."No Shirt, No Shoes, No Business" was a prevalent sign in restaurants, too.



Article from .Mic .com


I stand behind the thought that if you are as suicidal of a business owner as to refuse business, that is your prerogative. If you are someone turned away, guess what, I am confident someone will provide that service to you.

For instance, with the bakeries lately being sued for not making LGBT couples wedding cakes. If you are gay, I feel really rather certain that there is a business that will GLADLY take your money.

Now, I DO UNDERSTAND why this has been a civil liberties issue. HOWEVER, your rights IMHO do not eclipse my rights, and vice versa. If I am a religious business owner, and choose NOT to take your money...well, that is my idiotic right.

Just as you always have the right to take your business elsewhere.

a reply to: nullafides

So, all Muslims are terrorists according to the owner?

Shocking.

Didn't you hear? Just because you own a business doesn't mean you own it. Because you didn't build it...or if you did you used slave labor...or something like that.

Refuting that nonsense will restore your right to self-governance and control of your own business. But it ain't gonna be easy when an avowed socialist is a frontrunner for President.

a reply to: EA006

So...are you thinking I agree with the gun range owner?

Because, if you are, you're sadly mistaken.

However, whether we like it or not, stereotypes do typically have at least some basis in truth.

Women are rarely mass-murderers. Usually, it's a white male.

a reply to: nullafides

Also, growing up.."No Shirt, No Shoes, No Business" was a prevalent sign in restaurants, too.

Still is. That's not discrimination though. That has to do with health and safety.

For instance, with the bakeries lately being sued for not making LGBT couples wedding cakes.

Which bakeries? For example?

If I am a religious business owner, and choose NOT to take your money...well, that is my idiotic right.

Not if you are using a business license. That license is a contract which carries certain obligations.

Just as you always have the right to take your business elsewhere.

Not if the town you live in don't take kindly to my kind 'round there.

It's Oklahoma, what do you expect - the epitome of redneck white trash.

What if it's an American who follows Islam? How's he gonna know? Is he going to make everyone fill out a survey to find out what religion they are?

Idiot.

a reply to: nullafides

Did you read the whole article, because it goes on to say.

"It is sad to see an Oklahoma business join the clearly illegal movement to deny service to American Muslims, and it is equally sad to note the silence of our government on this denial of religious freedom and equal access to public accommodations," Veronica Laizure, civil rights director of CAIR's Oklahoma chapter, said. "As a nation, we rightfully moved past 'whites only' businesses, but our national leaders seem unwilling to challenge 'Muslim-free' public facilities." Despite the notoriety, bans like the one in Oklahoma are legally dubious and would likely run afoul of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Title II of the act expressly mandates that:

"All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin."

As a business set up to serve the public (versus, say, a private yacht club), a gun store would almost certainly be classified as a "public accommodation" and therefore subject to the rule.

a reply to: Phage

I'd gladly engage in a conversation with you...

...were it not for your history of simply being a nay-sayer.

So, enjoy!

a reply to: nullafides
Thank you for the explanation.

a reply to: mOjOm

Read the article I posted?

Nahhhh...

I just look at the pretty pictures.

a reply to: Phage

Anytime, pal!

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: mOjOm

Read the article I posted?

Nahhhh...

I just look at the pretty pictures.

I figured as much since you forgot to mention that fact that the business is also probably violating the law in doing what they're doing.

It sorta seemed like you liked the idea of denying people the same equal treatment as other get based off of nothing more than prejudice. But maybe I just read it wrong or something.

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: EA006

So...are you thinking I agree with the gun range owner?

Because, if you are, you're sadly mistaken.

However, whether we like it or not, stereotypes do typically have at least some basis in truth.

Women are rarely mass-murderers. Usually, it's a white male.

....."I didn't want any terrorists, or Muslims, cult, whatever you want to call them, training on my gun range," Neal told the Washington Post.

I responded to this^.

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: Phage

I'd gladly engage in a conversation with you...

...were it not for your history of simply being a nay-sayer.

So, enjoy!

LOL....

In other words "I'd debate you on this Phage if you weren't always right. You and your stupid facts and sound logic!"

a reply to: mOjOm

I've got gorgeous lake front swamp land to sell you in Florida...

Shoot me your number, let's chat!

a reply to: mOjOm

You may feel free to read ANYTHING into what I've said.

No, really. You seem to be rather entertained. Go right on ahead.

a reply to: nullafides

You sure about that?? I plan on making making it into a Muslim only shooting range.

a reply to: nullafides

What I dont get is how will the gun club enforce this? Will they be just be doing visual scans at entry looking for any Muslim wearing a thawb or burqa?
Will they rely on Muslims wearing none of the above being honest at the door?
I just dont get it.

a reply to: mOjOm

Go for it.

originally posted by: nullafides
a reply to: mOjOm

You may feel free to read ANYTHING into what I've said.

No, really. You seem to be rather entertained. Go right on ahead.

Or you could simply be direct about your stance on this subject rather than having me "read into" it.

Otherwise what is there to discuss about it??? If we both have the same opinion about it then there's nothing to talk about.

Hey, someone's got to entertain me, even if it's me.