Scientists Say Climate Change Has Reached the ‘Point of No Return’

More Climate Doom-Porn to discuss. 2 scientists: James Hansen and Michael Mann are saying that we've reached the point of no return.

Physical changes to the planet are setting off alarm bells for climate change worldwide, concerning scientists in the process. A study conducted by several scientists including famed climatologist James Hansen and Michael Mann concluded that a newly discovered feedback loop in Antarctica has the capacity to raise mean sea levels by 10 feet by 2065. That’s ten times faster than the rates previously predicted for sea level rise! Sea level rise is also occurring as the result of warmer global temperatures that melt sea ice. As sea ice continues to melt, it flushes a vast amount of fresh water into the ocean which, by changing the salinity, results in slower ocean currents. And this in turn results in more extreme weather patterns in areas bordering the Atlantic Ocean.

In addition to the physical nature of the environment, ocean life has been another strong indicator of climate change’s rapidly expanding influence. Recently, warming ocean temperatures encouraged anchovies and krill to seek refuge in a cooler swath of water off the California coast. This attracted baleen whales to the area which showed up in record numbers. Walruses, over 35,000 to be exact, have also been observed cramming themselves into a shrinking cold habitat as sea ice melts in Alaska.

In tandem, ocean acidification, a growing problem resulting from increased carbon dioxide levels, has been observed weakening the shells of animals like snails as they dissolve in increasingly acidic sea water. And marine “dead zones” are increasing as warmer temperatures encourage more extreme algae blooms which will eventually choke out most marine life that stands in their way.

However, these two scientists are saying that there are steps we can take to combat the Climate destruction we are bringing upon ourselves:

1. Push For A Planet That Is Free From Fossil Fuels

2. Plant A Tree!

3. Boost The Organic and Local Food In Your Life

4. Trim Your Waste-Line

5. Most Importantly … Choose More Plant-Based Foods

These scientists are saying that the industrial animal agriculture is at the heart of our environmental crisis.

"This destructive industry currently occupies over half of the world’s arable land resources, uses the majority of our freshwater stores, and drives greenhouse gas emissions. Additionally, this system causes rampant air and water pollution, land degradation, deforestation and is pushing countless species to the brink of extinction. And yet, one in eight people still suffer from food scarcity."

So I guess you could say that we're literally eating ourselves to death! What says ATS?

www.onegreenplanet.org...

Well it's a good thing solar is set to be the main source of energy for our species by mid century. Those trees are also more plentiful now than a century ago in countries like the US, thanks to conservation efforts.

hmmm, "all we have to do, is make sure we keep talking" -- Stephen Hawking



PS I'm going vegan in 9 weeks for my 33rd bday, totally selfish, don't want the heart attack and cancer.

originally posted by: lostbook


So I guess you could say that we're literally eating ourselves to death! What says ATS?

www.onegreenplanet.org...

They said we were all going to die in the 70's.

Then they said we were all going to die in the 80's.

Then they said we were all going to die in the 90's.

Then they said we were all going to die in the 00's.

Then they said we were all going to die in the 10's.

. . . . trying. . . . to . . . actually. . . . care. . . *gasp*. . . what . . . they. . . are. . . . preaching. . . now.

Well, good. If we're past the point of no return, there is no reason for a carbon tax.

I'll just make my peace with things before we all boil to death.

20+ years ago they said we should prepare because we were heading towards a new iceage lol and 20 yrs from now they'll say something else. the world will keep spinning and we'll keep paying taxes no way around it lol

a reply to: lostbook

If we have reached the point of no return then anything we can do would be futile.

To accept the entire article implies a certain amount of cognitive dissonance.

Melting sea ice causes sea level rise huh?

And they want us all to be sickly dirty vegan hippies too.

They may take our lives, but they'll never take my bacon!

a reply to: watchitburn

Melting sea ice causes sea level rise huh?

Are you implying that it wouldn't?

Selfishly? I'll be dead soon.

I remember when i could eat pizza all day long, i loved it. I remember when McDonalds was a blessing, those happy kids meals made my day as a kid. I remember all the foods which tasted so wonderful and filled my stomach to the fullest. I remember the cars i drove as a teen, fast and furious, the life i lived was for the moment, never thinking about the future. I thought i was immortal.

When i woke up one day, took a look in the mirror and felt soul- less, i ate more than i could eat, just because i could, i spent money, just because i could. I drove fast just because i could. Everything i did, i did just because i could. I never learned every act has a judge.

Today i look back, and still miss those days, but being a human is about never leaving a mark on this planet. The best choice in life means to walk this planet silent as if you never existed.
The meaning is, in a million years all those who believe they are Gods. Will never have existed.

We walk this planet as if it was ours. Its not.

a reply to: Sremmos80
Do melting ice cubes cause you cup to overflow?

a reply to: watchitburn

Yes it would...

You understand that ice is made of water right? So if you add water to water, you get more water...
Now if you are drinking it of course it would not.
Or if the ice was part of the water to begin with.

a reply to: lostbook

Whelp...

The two scientists didn't definitively say that we've crossed the threshold but it's looking increasingly like it's inevitable.

a reply to: beezzer

No. They didn't.

originally posted by: watchitburn
Melting sea ice causes sea level rise huh?

And they want us all to be sickly dirty vegan hippies too.

They may take our lives, but they'll never take my bacon!

Beelers Thick Cut Bacon Mmmmm!

a reply to: ketsuko
good point.

This effort to create panic with the environment is the work of former communists who failed at pushing communism when the Berlin Wall fell. British intelligence tracked these guys and I remember a Brit diplomat who gave a speech on this 10 years ago or so. I specifically remember how he described it. He said that when the wall fell, "they came running out of east Berlin and went right to the environment movement" because it was the easiest way to continue their efforts to bring down Capitalism.

These predictions have been with us for decades; the communists didn't start them. As a little kid in the 60's I remember hearing that New York City and every other east coast city would be underwater in 30 years. All of the dire predictions we hear today have been with us for 50 years and none of them have come true despite the efforts of Al Gore and his friends. It is just not going to happen. This planet has survived for 4.5 billion years, most of which was without mankind. Planet Earth is resilient, has seen much worse than a warming cycle, and will continue to be the big beautiful blue marble it has always been. Man cannot and does not significantly affect its climate. The temperature is all about the Sun folks....it is just that simple. It has its cycles just like planet Earth does.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: watchitburn

Yes it would...

You understand that ice is made of water right? So if you add water to water, you get more water...
Now if you are drinking it of course it would not. So is your point that the oceans are losing water that the melting ice caps would replace?

Hmm when water freezes, does it not expand? So if you had ice in a cup and it melted th water level would actually lower! Only slightly tho.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Sremmos80
Do melting ice cubes cause you cup to overflow?

Depends, is the ice outside the cup to begin with? durr

Does this mean it's time to drink the Kool-Aid ?

a reply to: Kali74

they used one of their favorite phrases: "it has the capacity to raise mean sea levels by 10 feet by 2065." In other words, in their opinion this might happen. It is a common tactic by these alarmists to raise a level of panic that they hope will result in grant funding for further study. And our government falls for it.