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originally posted by: sn0rch
originally posted by: Aleister
a reply to: pl3bscheese
No, jeez on a stick. It's a genetic disease. The enzymes which make ascorbic acid broke in primates - the genetics don't work. Every other living thing, your dogs and cats for example, are making it in their bodies all the time.
Hmm, cat's can't make Taurine. We can. Weird how cats have to have a supplement.
Damn broken genetics...
Also, I want gills back. Who needs ear drums... stupid evolution.
The ability to produce taurine would not make an animal less adapted to eat rodents.
Maybe nature tweeked their system to gear them to be a natural control predator or the less interesting conclusion that they just adapted to eat animals that have it.
originally posted by: Hushabye
a reply to: Aleister
That doesn't surprise me that doctors aren't taught this. They probably have to go into a biological speciality.
Veterinarians are not taught that the majority of our pets are carnivores- are not taught that cats are obligate carnivores- and then advocate feeding them 'pet food' which generally contains vegetables- and almost no meat, bones, organ.
Not sure about you, but I've never farmers worrying about wild cats and dogs stealing their corn.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: dreamingawake
The ability to produce taurine would not make an animal less adapted to eat rodents.
Maybe nature tweeked their system to gear them to be a natural control predator or the less interesting conclusion that they just adapted to eat animals that have it.
On the other hand, if an animal ate a lot of rodents, it wouldn't be a problem if it stopped producing taurine on its own.
A mutation does not have to be beneficial to be passed on.
originally posted by: Hushabye
a reply to: dreamingawake
Those foods are made with mostly soy and corn, with any meat product being minimal. The things they have to do to kibbles to make them even slightly palatable..read up on it. Oo. Any veterinarian that recommends me feed any animal those things is...not the doctor I want telling me about dietary needs. The majority of doctors do promote those things.
Cats do make taurine, just not enough. They get it from the heart meat, mostly of what they eat. Well, that's how raw feeders get the most taurine in them, unless they supplement.
originally posted by: Hushabye
a reply to: Aleister
That doesn't surprise me that doctors aren't taught this. They probably have to go into a biological speciality.
Veterinarians are not taught that the majority of our pets are carnivores- are not taught that cats are obligate carnivores- and then advocate feeding them 'pet food' which generally contains vegetables- and almost no meat, bones, organ.
originally posted by: Aleister
Went to see a new doctor for a routine check-up recently and he was unaware that humans not being able to make ascorbic acid (vitamin C) in our bodies is a genetic disease. The doctor was maybe forty years old. Don't they teach that in medical schools? I've long thought that something like every human on the planet having an easily curable major and very serious genetic disease is something that the media and medical profession should be trumpeting (or even Trump should be trumpeting), but he didn't even know about it.
For those who don't know, including people in the medical profession who apparently aren't taught this (at least loud enough to stick), every living thing on Earth aside from primates and guinea pigs is making ascorbic acid in their body every moment. Insects, fish, mammals, plants, reptiles, birds, but not your Aunt Millie. In her and us the process broke (our cells keep trying to constantly make it but can't, poor things). That's why there is so much emphasis on ATS to make people aware of how to best supplement, but at least to supplement with what most people think are "megadoses" (thanks to the orange juice industry which want you to think drinking their product is enough).
The easy answer is that the top levels of the medical profession don't want this publicized very heavily because it would lessen the amount of money spent on medications and hospital visits. The real answer may be that the top levels of the medical profession don't even think about it because they don't know about it.
Any insights from people on ATS involved in the medical field? Do people in your field ever discuss this? Thanks.