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originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: Trachel
We need you to help lead the charge towards restoring this world to its original glories.
Can you please elaborate just a bit more here? Do you mean by your idea of original glories or times of past? I didn't understand this or the celestial avengers idea, but hey a bunch of words together does make a sentence and I read it....
For now what we need are awakenings on a smaller scale. We need people to recognize that just because something is legal, that doesn't make it moral.
And just because you're taught in school to venerate money and status and corrupt icons like celebrities/CEOs/etc, those aren't the people to whom you should be giving respect.
I think meditation (and plant medicines) are the fastest road towards individual awakenings. And I think getting those "enlightened" people to start talking publicly and openly and loudly about their viewpoints is the key towards waking up society on a broader scale.
originally posted by: Trachel
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: Trachel
We need you to help lead the charge towards restoring this world to its original glories.
Can you please elaborate just a bit more here? Do you mean by your idea of original glories or times of past? I didn't understand this or the celestial avengers idea, but hey a bunch of words together does make a sentence and I read it....
Sure. What I'm talking about is this:
Humanity needs vocal, visible examples of ethical individuals. It needs unsung heroes to wake up and start awakening others.
By original glories, I mean we need all of us working together restoring this planet back to its original design. We need bring it back to the light, and make it a place where spirits can incarnate and improve on schedule according to the original plan of the creator spirit/spirits.
In short we need paragon examples of humanity going out there every day and showing people how to properly live. Be one of them.
Be ethical in everything you do
Be moral in every act you take
Be outspoken against all forms of corruption
Be relentless upon the road towards awakening others
Hope that explains a bit better!
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
Do you honestly think with the amount of people here we could realistically revert back to "the garden of eden"? Again, more interested in how you would like to go about it because I surely would help if it is possible...I believe in Jesus and I think the only way this happens is another "cleansing"....If you believe you are aware this isn't happening again....So what do we do?
I told you exactly how I'd go about it. We need paragon exemplars of ethical individuals to stand up and start setting inspiring examples for the confused, miseducated, and largely immoral masses.
We can easily drown them out and silence them forever with one great lion's roar.
There are only a very small percentage of people suppressing the spiritual development of this planet.
Turn on television today and you'll see people like the kardashians--greedy, selfish, narcissistic. Watch professional sports like boxing and you'll see people venerating a wife beater like Floyd Mayweather.
I'm interesting in progressing forward in more ethical directions like the designers of this reality (ostensibly) intended.
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
But you missed my question within this.....I asked WHO you would pick to be your example to the immoral masses....Someone has to be that person and I want to know who you pick to do the job?
Turn on television today and you'll see people like the kardashians--greedy, selfish, narcissistic. Watch professional sports like boxing and you'll see people venerating a wife beater like Floyd Mayweather.
As far as I know there are no humans that are calling any of these people their idol in worship....Correct me if I am wrong....They are purely entertainment and as far as I am aware there is nothing wrong with entertainers...As long as they aren't idolized nor worshipped...
That's the process we need reverse. And we start it by refining the person in the mirror.
Then through ourselves, we show the world that a better way is possible.
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: Trachel
That's the process we need reverse. And we start it by refining the person in the mirror.
Then through ourselves, we show the world that a better way is possible.
Not disagreeing one bit with what you stated, but for people who don't even raise their own kids anymore letting the internet/social media handle it for them....How are the masses supposed to fix themselves without some outside intervention?
You can't just expect people to read a book, watch a documentary, read online or more about fixing themselves it won't work and that is nearly 99.99% proven daily on social media....
We can't show ourselves a better world, we only know what we see/think right in front of us daily....The world would literally need to change overnight for our opinions/mindset changes....
I love the spirit but it is a fallacy in today's society....
Create the world you wanna see.
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: Trachel
Create the world you wanna see.
Unfortunately I don't possess this power.....I can talk online trying to help people in need but I am only one person! 2 including you....It is a very large uphill battle and I just hope those out in the world come to peace with themselves because without quoting scripture or speaking about it the pieces are aligning as we speak and we can do nothing to change them....
Thanks for the chat though! Enjoyed talking with you about this stuff! You seem like a straight shooter and intelligent...Although I compare intelligence to my understanding so who knows?? hehe
originally posted by: Trachel
originally posted by: kennyb72
a reply to: Trachel
Hi Trachel, can't believe I only just caught up with your threads, ALL well said my friend, only have a bit of an issue with making it through in one life but spot on otherwise To be a MASTER of life you have to spend a lot of time being lots of people.
Well done
Thanks for the kind words!
I agree with you on the most part, I think we're just talking around each other on the crux point:
When I say get "done" in one life, I mean perfect yourself to the point where you earn the right to incarnate in "heaven" after this life is over.
After you're there, you're more than welcome to sit back and do nothing more. But a significant percentage of spirits who attain that near-perfected state do continue incarnating to further develop themselves and live inspiring lives for the masses.
So yeah, agree 100%. To really master this game you need keep coming back over and over.
But you can reach the ultimate reward/paradise by refining yourself to near-perfection in a single life. Tons of spirits have done it.
Everyone here can too!
originally posted by: yosako
I call that BS...the only cause "something" would want you to remain stuck here "learning lessons" as you say (to become the "perfect" pet, that is) is that who would rather see you "asleep" forever.
originally posted by: Trachel
originally posted by: yosako
I call that BS...the only cause "something" would want you to remain stuck here "learning lessons" as you say (to become the "perfect" pet, that is) is that who would rather see you "asleep" forever.
Something does want you stuck here learning lessons forever as a pet.
They're called malevolent spirits--those who turned so dark the designers of reality refused them additional corporeal lives.
Now they exist as unseen spiritual forces that act in malevolence to slow the progress of this reality and retard the spiritual growth of all those who listen to their dark whispers.
It's a fascinating (disturbing) topic--might do a thread on that next.
originally posted by: Trachel
Something does want you stuck here learning lessons forever as a pet.
They're called malevolent spirits--those who turned so dark the designers of reality refused them additional corporeal lives.
originally posted by: yosako
originally posted by: Trachel
Something does want you stuck here learning lessons forever as a pet.
They're called malevolent spirits--those who turned so dark the designers of reality refused them additional corporeal lives.
Those so-called "designers of reality" must be failing miserably when psychos have such ease on becoming political leaders. Oh wait, they were sociopathic liars as well...
originally posted by: yosako
originally posted by: Trachel
Something does want you stuck here learning lessons forever as a pet.
They're called malevolent spirits--those who turned so dark the designers of reality refused them additional corporeal lives.
Those so-called "designers of reality" must be failing miserably when psychos have such ease on becoming political leaders. Oh wait, they were sociopathic liars as well...
These are internal struggles, and one I face fairly frequently with dream teachers, I always take the darker path in order to learn..
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
originally posted by: Trachel
originally posted by: yosako
I call that BS...the only cause "something" would want you to remain stuck here "learning lessons" as you say (to become the "perfect" pet, that is) is that who would rather see you "asleep" forever.
Something does want you stuck here learning lessons forever as a pet.
They're called malevolent spirits--those who turned so dark the designers of reality refused them additional corporeal lives.
Now they exist as unseen spiritual forces that act in malevolence to slow the progress of this reality and retard the spiritual growth of all those who listen to their dark whispers.
It's a fascinating (disturbing) topic--might do a thread on that next.
I will wait for it....PM me once you do!