Are Grass Roots Democrats & Independents Going For Sanders ?

Like most on ATS I am watching the 2016 election cycle with fascination.

When I see 19,000 people show up at a rally, that makes me take note, Clinton has been off the radar completely.
Sanders is getting the people, press quotes, and engaging his potential rival.

Could this end up a Sanders VS. Trump.

Sanders Draws Huge Crowd

Or Hillary doesn't want to shoot her powder this early in the discussions... Seems sensible to me.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

What I was wondering is if someone might be behind having the Black Lives Matter protestors pushing Bernie off the stage..... maybe Hillary?
It would benefit her to show that Bernie can't even hold his own at a public speaking event set up for him. She can point to that and say.... how can he take control of the reins of power if he can't handle that?

Yeah my in-laws are pretty grass roots Dem. They really dislike Clinton and favor Sanders. Sadly they had to leave early at the Seattle rally because of the disruption. Really wanted to connect more. While I don't follow him per se I was happy to to hear of their enthusiasm for this.

a reply to: butcherguy

What a coincidence. I was listening to C-Span this morning an elderly woman called with this same accusation. All she could say "I believe".

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

I think Sanders is appealing in a big way to the grass roots. I don't belong to a party, but we are supporting "Bernie" and most of my friends are as well.

It may end up as Sanders V Trump (Yay!). Or Clinton V Bush (Ugh!).

It's so far out, ANYTHING could happen in a year.

After seeing the video of the angry women. I think a large part of the Democratic base actually loves Trump.

Trump is way more of a threat to Democrats then they want to acknowledge.

Remember most voters in the US are politically unaware, but they watch TV!

The majority of TV watching dim bulb voters seem to really love Trump,
and they know him.

To them Sanders is and will be practically an unknown.

It is interesting to watch how Trump has energized the dim bulb voters of
both sides.

Sanders doesn't stand a chance against Trump with the vast majority
of voters who are so uninformed that they think reality TV reflects
reality.

Anyway, since this is a political thread:

I have no idea what I would be called. I am simply a citizen voter. I never just check the easy vote box. I will take my time and check each candidate individually no matter which political side they say they are with. With that understanding, I am leaning towards Sanders. I must admit, I like that he has a stable voting record. This does give me a better idea on how he would want to run things domestically. My hope is in the upcoming debates, I can gain a better understanding how he will address America's world issues. That is something I have not quite ascertained completely from him, yet?

Naturally, I will not be set in my decision until closer to the elections. So many things could change between now and then, but for now, I want to hear more from him. I don't believe I am alone in thinking this way. It would be a really interesting election if both Trump and Bernie ran Independent against Bush and Clinton! But I doubt Sanders would actually want to take such a gamble. Haha...but that would really put some spice into our elections!

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

...........and republicans should join them - you see, imo, America needs to start from scratch. It needs to zero the meter politically and really really start again. Drop the hate and division - opinions are ever-changing and wide and varied - labeling and consequently aligning folks to any political persuasion is redundant, flawed and inaccurate.

I don't need to prattle on about the ineptness of the current people in power, the 2-party BS, and the money-bags-lobbyists waiting to buy your next president, I've banged on about that elsewhere here.

Between Trump and Bernie, hopefully they can be a catalyst to see the beginning of the end of the current Republican and Democratic parties altogether. It appears both parties need (want) these guys more than they need (want) the parties.

America is not about political parties - it's about getting ship done and excelling at it.

It's time America took out the trash, it's starting to stink up the whole planet.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: butcherguy

What a coincidence. I was listening to C-Span this morning an elderly woman called with this same accusation. All she could say "I believe".

I guess the thing that makes me wonder is....
Why would the Black Lives Matter want to silence a politician that appears to be allied with them?
Then, who would want (or serve to benefit politically) when BLM does something that makes no sense politically?

a reply to: butcherguy

It seems to me they need to hire some big black female security guards to keep these disrupter's off the stage, I sympathize with their outrage, but it's the wrong venue to vent at.

Sanders is projecting a product brand he has been building for 30ish years. His voting record, his history of submitting legislation, his countless hours of video on the chambers floor championing the causes he is now running on is resonating with a large portion of the country.

Just curious, if it came down to Hillary and any GOP candidate, who would the Bernie fans vote for?

a reply to: beezzer

That's a good question, but I'd be willing to bet that they'd stomach a vote for Hillary before voting for the GOP.

a reply to: introvert

Just curious.

Are they really looking for change?

Or just status quo?

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: butcherguy

It seems to me they need to hire some big black female security guards to keep these disrupter's off the stage, I sympathize with their outrage, but it's the wrong venue to vent at.

That sounds like a fairly good idea.

They certainly are venting at the wrong venue when they pick a Bernie rally to do it. That is what makes it smell fishy to me.

originally posted by: beezzer
Just curious, if it came down to Hillary and any GOP candidate, who would the Bernie fans vote for?

I can't speak for other Bernie fans, but for me, it would depend on which GOP candidate it was and what their positions on the issues are. If Bernie wasn't running, I may write him in. I can also see myself voting for Jill Stein (Green), Rand Paul, Gary Johnson (Libertarian) or John Kasich. I'd have to do more research, though.

a reply to: grandmakdw

After seeing the video of the angry women. I think a large part of the Democratic base actually loves Trump.

So you are basing this off a couple of people who are complaining to a person who has no control over anything in their city? The Dems don't love Trump they are laughing at the circus the GOP has turned into thanks to Trump.

The majority of TV watching dim bulb voters seem to really love Trump, and they know him.

Yes they love him that's why no outrage has been shown since he got canned.

a reply to: butcherguy

Maybe because they knew Bernie would not arrest them or shoot them. So all ended peacefully.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: introvert

Just curious.

Are they really looking for change?

Or just status quo?

That would depend on the individual. I think they all want some sort of change, but many don't necessarily see how the GOP offers anything other than the same old line they've always been selling.