Is Donald Trump the embodiment of a "Hail Mary pass"?

A Hail Mary pass is a very long forward pass in American football, made in desperation with only a small chance of success, especially at or near the end of a half.
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I think the vast majority in the USA sense that America is headed towards a horrific collapse without some kind of miracle. I believe it can be proven with numbers such as the following:

Rome was destroyed by unfunded liabilities, will Illinois be the first domino to fall?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

To me, Trump is running as the proverbial "Hail Mary pass." I don't see him promising anything, I don't see him presenting any detailed strategies or plans, he's selling a simple idea..."Make America great again."

His slogan itself embodies a Hail Mary pass in my opinion. Most Americans would probably agree that making America "great again" is almost inconceivable in the short to medium term. Just like how the success of a Hail Mary pass often seems inconceivable moments before it sometimes succeeds (see the youtube video below as an example). It's almost like Trump is saying, "With me you've got a shot, I'll attempt the Hail Mary pass. Without me, you've got no shot as no one else will try it." I believe that's the simple idea he's selling. If people buy in to that idea then everything else about him may not matter at all. That may explain why people are so mystified by his popularity. People may be (consciously or unconsciously) supporting Trump because they want the Hail Mary pass to be thrown, the rest of it may mean nothing to them. It's almost like Obama's "Change" slogan on steroids, Americans may have gone from hopeful to desperate (Obama to Trump).

Think about it, electing a man with no experience as a politician, with no detailed strategies or plans for the future, just an idea about making the country "great again" with only a track record of being a successful businessman to back it up...it sounds like a Hail Mary pass to me. I think a lot of Americans have determined that the Hail Mary pass is the only choice now. When it's done at the end of a game, the beauty of it is that if it works you win the game, if it doesn't you lose nothing. I think huge numbers of Americans see Trump just like that. "We're almost certain to lose either way so let's take a desperation shot. What have we got to lose?", is probably what they'd say (or what they're thinking or feeling, consciously or unconsciously).

If Americans elect another career politician then the "Hail Mary pass" will never even be thrown.

If you want a "Hail Mary pass" to win, to try and "Make America great again"...

Trump is the only choice available. This theory would explain why "Republicans" will keep supporting Trump even as a third party candidate. They may know that will probably ensure a victory for the Democrats but if the theory I'm presenting in this post is correct, that may be irrelevant to them. The ideology they'd be voting on would not be conservative/liberal, it would be for the "Hail Mary pass" and any other vote would be against that in their minds. They may not even be consciously aware of any of that. Anyway, that could explain their total allegiance to Trump no matter what.

Trump may even be going out of his way to look like a renegade and even an asshole to try to show people that he'll throw his Hail Mary pass anywhere on the field, so to speak.

In some ways he may be the perfect person to throw the Hail Mary pass. The following points seem to be facts: successful and knowledgeable businessman, can't be bought, speaks his mind freely, will not wilt under pressure, will not be phased by the spotlight, etc. Someone could make a campaign ad with the following clip, interspersing the Hail Mary pass with Trump. It will never happen but it would be epic.


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I hope this post demystifies Trump's popularity because it's crystal clear to me.

a reply to: Profusion
Trump is NO hail mary pass. If anything, Dems have planted him. If anything else, he is trying to make money. There are other republicans that could easily beat him, this is early in polls.

"Make America Great Again"

Well, America isn't perfect...it's FAR from perfect...

But who's to say it's not great when compared to the rest of the world?

The notion that there could potentially be a presidential race between Hillary frickin Clinton and Donald frickin Trump makes my skin crawl.

It's literally a political puppet show comedy at this point. I would have left the planet by now but neither Jesus nor the aliens have been by to give me a lift. I still have my thumb out though.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Yeah, that would be me.

I like Trump because he scares and makes allot of people mad in both parties. Sanders and his socialist policies, Hilary and her ineptitude just don't make my boat float unless you want more of the same old stuff or maybe more in the form of taxes. Trump says (and I believe him) he ain't in it for the same old crap. But different people will believe whatever and some feel very strongly about their beliefs. I do believe he is one of the few who could stop America from being raped by some of it's trading partners and actually bring back companies to America or pay stiff taxes on their imports..

It is to early yet but as long as he is leading in the polls you can bet your bippie many (both parties) will do whatever they can to smear and destroy his message.. They may not have to do anything in the politically correct USA for Trump talks off the cuff without a bunch of prepared B.S. so he may crash and burn on his own.. ? Either way it has and is entertaining..

a reply to: Profusion

I can see that aspect of his appeal, however I honestly think that Trump isn't nearly as big as people think. Media is his deal, of course he looks good on TV when he hasn't actually had to do anything yet. He's probably all astroturf. I think when Iowa rolls around we're going to find out that Trump supporters aren't that committed and haven't been organized well enough to win in the caucus system because he wasn't serious enough or well connected enough to bring together the right people and strategy. In a few technical procedural ways, American politics is still ever so slightly more sophisticated than electing a homecoming queen, and Trump's reliance on his alleged genius for brand building and largely unproven wealth may blind him to that fact.

I think his primary appeal is "I didn't know who any of the other candidates were before the news started telling me, and I don't care enough to find out, so I'm going to express my enthusiasm for ignoring the political process by voting for a B-list TV personality who I know won't win, and don't actually plan to show up and vote for".

a reply to: 727Sky

He's a caricature...

This is what I can't wrap my head around. Americans are so sick in the head there are people out there that think this goof would be a good president (or Hillary on the other side).

The world is going to hell in a handbasket.

a reply to: 727Sky

I do believe he is one of the few who could stop America from being raped by some of it's trading partners and actually bring back companies to America or pay stiff taxes on their imports..

haha...raped by their trading partners. For the last fifty years the USA has been on life support courtesy of the US $ denominated oil price and the exporting of US inflation. Seems to me like the wolf blaming the sheep for lying down. American exceptionalism shown yet again.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: Profusion
Trump is NO hail mary pass. If anything, Dems have planted him. If anything else, he is trying to make money. There are other republicans that could easily beat him, this is early in polls.

Trump increasingly strikes me as plant from the Hillary Clinton camp. My prediction is that he runs as an interdependent candidate when the main event rolls around. He clearly isn't presidential material even if you put aside the fact he hasn't held any previous elected office. If the guy can't handle a few mild questions in a debate there is no chance in hell he would be able to deal with Congress or world leaders.

Ronald Reagan and Tip" O'Neill played political hardball while remaining friends behind the public spotlight. Reagan may have found Tip" O'Neill to be a tougher customer then Mikhail Gorbachev when it came to negotiating a deal. Trump is a great showman who simply isn't cut out for a career in politics.

a reply to: Profusion

If "Make America Great Again" doesn't work for you....

I'm curious what, "Hope and Change" did for ya?

Both slogans are designed to be empty, to be filled with whatever people want them to THINK it means.

I'm not saying that Donald Trump is the answer, but through my personal experience I've seen that a business person can better take on government responsibilities than a politician take on the challenges that businesses face.

originally posted by: Profusion

A Hail Mary pass is a very long forward pass in American football, made in desperation with only a small chance of success, especially at or near the end of a half.
en.wikipedia.org...

I think the vast majority in the USA sense that America is headed towards a horrific collapse without some kind of miracle. I believe it can be proven with numbers such as the following:

Rome was destroyed by unfunded liabilities, will Illinois be the first domino to fall?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

To me, Trump is running as the proverbial "Hail Mary pass." I don't see him promising anything, I don't see him presenting any detailed strategies or plans, he's selling a simple idea..."Make America great again."

Already been done. "Hope and Change". Remember?

originally posted by: eluryh22
I'm not saying that Donald Trump is the answer, but through my personal experience I've seen that a business person can better take on government responsibilities than a politician take on the challenges that businesses face.

You have? Which personal experiences were those exactly? By personal "experience" are you sure you don't mean personal opinion?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Through construction project management.

Example: After Hurricane Sandy destroyed parts of NYC, FEMA sent boatloads of money at reconstruction/rehabilitation. The money sat for months and months while government agencies floundered. It wasn't until, out of desperation and public outcries, the government agencies turned over the process to private construction management firms that the work started.

I've worked both in on the private side and for government agencies. I've seen the difference.
Note: This is not a Republican/Democrat thing... this is a difference between private/government thing.

Trump is Perot, plain and simple.
He was discarded by the Republican establishment and is now bent on setting them on a course towards failure as his revenge.
Perot, for those of us old enough to remember, spent the entire Presidential debates obsessively undermining GHW Bush. Clinton meanwhile got a complete pass from Perot as his anger was laser fixed upon Bush 41.
Many in the Republican establishment fear Trump to be a reincarnation of HRoss Perot...and through no small irony, his ire may once again be focused on a Bush.
Make no mistake, Trumps end game appears to be hurting the Party that has so shunned him for decades and whom approval seems to be nowhere for the Donald...
And God help us if he ushers in another Clinton....at least the first one listened to polls and the populace after the 94 debacle.
-Christosterone

originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Through construction project management.

Example: After Hurricane Sandy destroyed parts of NYC, FEMA sent boatloads of money at reconstruction/rehabilitation. The money sat for months and months while government agencies floundered. It wasn't until, out of desperation and public outcries, the government agencies turned over the process to private construction management firms that the work started.

I've worked both in on the private side and for government agencies. I've seen the difference.
Note: This is not a Republican/Democrat thing... this is a difference between private/government thing.

There is a BIG difference between a local business using a government contract to get stuff done versus a businessman being a politician and running the government like a business.

Donald Trump is the embodiment of a great American who would make a superb president. We do not need a politician we need a leader who is strong and established enough to possibly lead our country into a new understanding of being. These politicians live their life to do that, preach politics. This is one rare instance of a man who succeeded and has more realism than any politician who was just need to be a politician. We need someone real.

I hope he is strong enough given his wealth and power to overcome the obstacles he has ahead of him in a society molded by politicians so that politics rules the world. He is no politician. He is the perfect embodiment of a leader.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

NOW who's using "opinion"...?

a reply to: mikethedevil

Are these serious posts? Trump? Good leader? LOL!