"UFOs, Do they Smell? The Sulphur Enigma of Paranormal Visitation"

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Interesting reading, to be sure. They are quite thorough about including all sorts of odd phenomena that include a sulphur smell. If these are connected or not is the question. I believe many are.

From your link -

This should not be a surprise as lightning was always known to be the cause of sulphur smells. Before we get into this aspect I would like, first of all, to list some phenomena that are sometimes accompanied with a pungent smell, likened to sulphur or ozone.

The Tricksters: Of the Southwestern United States, Northern Mexico peyote ceremonies. Also in Celtic lore (fairies, gnomes, sylphs etc.)
The Men in Black
Sasquatch (Pacific Northwest), Yeti (Asia), The Skunk Ape (Southeastern U.S.), Momo (Missouri Monster)
The Greek Gods of Mythology
Succubi, Incubi, and various demonic manifestations during occult workings
Poltergeist, ghosts, spirits etc.
UFOs, Aliens, Space Brothers etc.
The Chupacabra of Puerto Rico and South and Central America
Lightning (this seems to be a clue of some sort, as UFOs are frequently see near powerlines of high voltage)

There are good reasons to believe that many of the listed phenomena are demonic in nature, and thus it would make sense that they shared some characteristics. Perhaps the smell is related to the energy discharge needed to manifest in our dimension.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Why would they have to be demonic in nature? Only one of the items on the list in the quoted text is explicitly demonic. The rest involves cryptids, various spirits both of the dead and nature, and purported aliens. While the potential interaction of another realm is a valid idea, I think it's rather presumptuous to label it all as "demonic" as that's a rather loaded word that carries a lot of religious baggage and implied negativity.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Interesting reading, to be sure. They are quite thorough about including all sorts of odd phenomena that include a sulphur smell. If these are connected or not is the question. I believe many are.

From your link -

This should not be a surprise as lightning was always known to be the cause of sulphur smells. Before we get into this aspect I would like, first of all, to list some phenomena that are sometimes accompanied with a pungent smell, likened to sulphur or ozone.

The Tricksters: Of the Southwestern United States, Northern Mexico peyote ceremonies. Also in Celtic lore (fairies, gnomes, sylphs etc.)
The Men in Black
Sasquatch (Pacific Northwest), Yeti (Asia), The Skunk Ape (Southeastern U.S.), Momo (Missouri Monster)
The Greek Gods of Mythology
Succubi, Incubi, and various demonic manifestations during occult workings
Poltergeist, ghosts, spirits etc.
UFOs, Aliens, Space Brothers etc.
The Chupacabra of Puerto Rico and South and Central America
Lightning (this seems to be a clue of some sort, as UFOs are frequently see near powerlines of high voltage)

There are good reasons to believe that many of the listed phenomena are demonic in nature, and thus it would make sense that they shared some characteristics. Perhaps the smell is related to the energy discharge needed to manifest in our dimension.

Well originally daemon was not an evil word, but a neutral
or good one.

That's the thing about 'demons'. One person's angels are
another person's demons. One person's terrorist is
another person's patriot.

And if you study religion from the beginning, whichever
religion wins the 'war' brands the losing religions
gods and angels as the winning one's devils and demons.

Thus 'Pan' a neutral god of wine becomes a prototype
for 'the devil' which never existed in the first place
(I'll talk about 'satan' and the mistranlation leading to
'lucifer' if necessary but it doesn't matter). Christianity,
the religion most people know the best, is a new
amalgam of many earlier myths.

But in any case, for all the other religions the same
thing happened too.. if you don't want to discuss
Christianity.

For example the Titans were never 'evil' to begin
with, but once defeated by the 'good gods'
they were.

Former 'gods' such as Belial, Moloch, Astaroth,
etc, were formerly 'good' until those culutres
were conquered and these figures were
turned into 'demons and devils' by the more
vicious culture/religion.

But all that said.. yes.. it's certainly been
said by many, that these 'beings' if any,
don't necessarily have the welfare of
the human race as a priority.. but that's
natural... humans are a pretty nasty
race themselves, and would wipe out
any aliens they could, if it would benefit
them, just like they killed the indigenous
people's of the world during the dark
ages, when religion reigned supreme.

Frankly, I can't imagine why anyone would
want an 'alien' to come to Earth. If they are
even half as bad as a human, they will
kill us all.

Kev

I would also like to add another concept that I've been
kicking around for some time.. that we (our planet)
is being Terraformed by a hostile species of plasma
critter or an extra-dimensional species.

Now I don't know if I find this likely.. but there
might be a case for making that argument.

Now if I was a sentient plasma species, what would
I need to do to the Earth to make it more habitable?

1) Pollution with lots of particulate matter. That
means coal fired power plants and diesel trucks
of which we have plenty, and all the other
industrial processes. Now as I mentioned earlier,
I don't know why small particles are so critical
for plasmas formation, but it seems to be the
case. I don't understand the science on that,
other than that small particles are at the
boundry between the quantum micro and
macro layers. That any observed 'sentience'
is likely due to quantum effects of electrons
and charged particles at the core of the
plasma bundle.. perhaps the small particles
are part of a shielding system? I don't know.

Now I understand that there are groups
which are fighting pollution and perhaps
this factor will decrease markedly at
some point. But perhaps by then,
there would be a foothold enough that
it doesn't matter.. or perhaps the
pollution angle is a false angle.

2) I know that the fiber optic revolution
is decreasing the amount of microwave
radiation we are emitting, but it's still
everywhere.. and microwave radiation
is to plasmas as babies are to milk.
Electrons need to be stripped from the
atoms and microwave is a great way
to form plasma (or to enhance it).

We first started seeing 'foo fighters'
(plasmas) when high power radars
were being tested on warplanes.

Apparently we saw plasmas when
early stealth craft were coated with
radioactive paint, to decrease wind
resistance and misdirect incoming
radar.

Of course we have cellphone towers
everywhere.. and more and more people
who live close to them are (apparently)
seeing 'shadow spiders' and such.

It's really enough to make one paranoid
and to believe 3)

3) That Djinn (to use an easily recognized
historical referent) are subconsciously
priming humans to build the technologies
of EM pollution, particle pollution and
WAR, in order to 'Plasma Form' the
Earth for themselves.

One could also postulate that these
hypothetical energy critters are
pushing us into robotics and other
technologies, so that they can
inhabit bodies of a more permanent
nature, and stop relying on the subtle
'control loop' mind control of humans.

Humans being a rather crappy physical
form.

I mention this idea in passing.. not making
it a thread of it's own, and it's highly
speculative.. and I'm not even certain it's
true (and a lot of garbage has been written
about 'the Djinn).

But it's an interesting concept to me, that
we may be being 'invaded' and not even
know it. That might well explain much
of the highly inscruitable nature of
'UFOs'. These 'UFOs' wouldn't want us
to figure out that we are being 'invaded'.

I can also describe how and why these
'Djinn' created all religion and spiritual
systems to further their purposes, but that's
another thread.

Kev

originally posted by: Kojiro
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Why would they have to be demonic in nature? Only one of the items on the list in the quoted text is explicitly demonic. The rest involves cryptids, various spirits both of the dead and nature, and purported aliens. While the potential interaction of another realm is a valid idea, I think it's rather presumptuous to label it all as "demonic" as that's a rather loaded word that carries a lot of religious baggage and implied negativity.

I couldn't agree more!

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
FYI when under a CT machine I smell the sulfur smell.. Not that it has any significance I'm just saying..

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear
FYI when under a CT machine I smell the sulfur smell.. Not that it has any significance I'm just saying..

No it does have extreme significance.

Some folks think that sulphur smell is some magical
byproduct of some weird or demonic presence or
technology.

It's really mundane as you point out.

Just some high voltage or radiation and
you get it all the time.

Kev

Maybe the night time experiences involve eggs and flatulence. Just saying...a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

OMG!!! That is totally a "Doctor Who" episode - an alien species terraforming the Earth with pollution!

And you know what? I actually find your theory rather 'viable'!

You mentioned Micro-wave radiation, radioactive paint (on air craft), and "WAR" (which I assume means nuclear arms detonations) - would radioactivity from nuclear power plant 'accidents', i.e. Fukushima be 'helpful' to such plasma 'beings'?


Your theory also makes sense in context with the increasing 'insanity' of the human race as a whole...

...I mean, obviously (as generators of UFO and other phenomena) they are able to interfere with our minds...so - they make us crazy enough, we not only die from the results of their terraforming (excess pollution and radiation), we start killing each other off and save them the trouble of 'clearing' the planet so they can take up residence.

Okay, officially freaking myself out here now

a reply to: lostgirl

It does sound like that doesn't it!

I meant high energy research into
plasma and Em not Fukushima...
(but keep brain storming)

Plasma and Em research appear
to be the little darlings of the
merchants of death.

What bakes my noodle is the fact
that we are 18 million miles away
from the mother of all plasma
and yet the conditions for high
strangeness are so delicate...
and dependant on local small
plasma sources.

It must involve both the human
factor hand decoherence shielding
but I just don't know.

It's the single most important
thing to figure out by far....
the very heart of the UFO and
paranormal mystery.

(if the theory has any merit
of course).

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Not sure about sentient plasma terra-forming the very planet that is Terra. Did they just ignore the millions of years before the last couple of centuries and then suddenly discover us? Or were the dinosaurs too stupid to invent computers so they decided to asteroid blitz them and wait another 65 million years for something better to turn up?

As for that smell. Well I am not sure whether it's just a phenomenon associated with electrical stormy weather more than anything.

See here: www.scientificamerican.com...

It was also noted that there a was a strong smell of sulphur after the village of Lynmouth was destroyed by floods in England in 1952. This was supposedly caused by a military experiment that got out of hand and I did a brief write up about 2 years ago.

Did a British Government Experiment Destroy a Devon village?

a reply to: mirageman

Great points, thanks for bringing
them up so I can further discuss this.

As for the 65 million years that
fits perfectly with the theory.

I do tend to get in arguments with
religious Djinn practitioner
traditionalists, who route the
party line that 'Djinn came first'.

Only they didn't. (if you believe
in Djinn that is).

Liars always lead with their weaknesses
and 'Djinn always put themselves up
there with angels, etc.

Only 'Djinn' evolved from simple
life, insects, reptiles, and finally
mammals.

So in a sense 'we' (organic critters)
came first. They evolved from
'us'.

If anyone is in the process of getting
'spiritually abducted' by 'Djinn' or
one of their more common modern
forms such as 'gray aliens' just firmly
repeat that....that should be more
effective than all the useless prayers
in the world. Most prayers from Djinn
created religions will just te them
smile or on occasion play dead so
they can keep promoting the lie
called modern religion.

But back to the point.

Just like a biogenesis needed
something like deep ocean
volcanic vents and crystals
to kick start cellular life RNA
replication, etc. Plasma
lifeforms like 'Djinn' needed
the scaffolding of living cells
to evolve to the point where
they didn't need it anymore
to live.

WE are the progenitors and
a handful of others in this
galaxy (IMHO).

Now.... why all the conflict now
between humans and 'Djinn'?

Easy.

6000 years ago or so, (its
funny this is actually true)
human brains and nervous
systems got destroyed
around the time of the
late Paleolithic and early
neolithic or so when the
barbarity of the patriarchal
started to destroy human
civilization.

Human egos grew large..
conflicts over resources
twisted human minds and
through cultural transmission
of memes destroyed the
peaceful coexistence between
humans and 'Djinn'.

This is just a fraction of
the theory. Theory. I fully
acknowledge that word.

But I have good reasons for
believing it may be true.

I'll address your other points
and any questions soon.

I have work to do.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
Various people on ATS and on other sites have mentioned that they smelled sufur or other noxious odors (such as burning rubber) during UFO or 'orb' sightings.

Do you think it is worth noting that both military illumination flares and IR decoy flares smell like sulfur?

a reply to: Drunkenparrot

sure!

and OFTEN UFOs are simple
misidentification.

But there were no flares that
I know of thousands of
years ago.

There certainly multiple
explanations for UFOs
to include black ops
mental illness... many
valid reasons.

Kev

a reply to: mirageman

To address the destroyed village.

pulsed microwaves, especially in
concert with some form of material
seeding could account for the odour
and the after effects.... tech which was
available at that time..

Just the raw tech is answer enough..
but plasma may well attract 'unusual
plasmas'.

I wonder when the major governments
finally caught onto the consequences
of their high energy testing?

If there is anything to disclose thats it.
Nothing more exotic than that.

Of course other explanations
are equally possible.

Kev

Interesting thread, Mr. Bear.

I wonder if physicality is truly needed to produce-support immaterial intelligence? It is seductive as out-of-the-box (and building, entirely) thinking, but I wonder.

One other thing I'll offer is that in my own meager associations with 'immaterial fauna' I never smelled that oft described sulfur... or rather, never smelled it in close association with paranormal events, anyway.

But I do smoke... and likely couldn't smell a sewage treatment plant across the street on a hot summer day.

a reply to: Baddogma

smoke or no smoke your nose smells quanta , even before the wake

funbox

a reply to: Baddogma

Required once in the history of
the Universe may have been
enough. Hard to say.

As for Sulphur that's perhaps only
associated with the more violent
and large scale occurrences.

More to say... heading to breakfast.

Kev