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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
In Roman iconography, it was often depicted being carried in the left hand of Mercury, the messenger of the gods, guide of the dead and protector of merchants, shepherds, gamblers, liars, and thieves.[3]
I do not need to do much research to understand that a great deal of medicine is being manipulated and having snakes as a representation of that manipulation is full of symbolism. The fact they started this in ancient times just means that the wool has been pulled over our eyes for that much longer.
Healing and "madicine" are very different.
originally posted by: Agartha
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Agartha
Ok now we know that isn't the real symbol.
It's just the one being used everywhere.
Just because the symbol is used by many organizations, it doesn't mean it's the correct one for medicine.
There is a difference between the symbols with 1 or 2 snake.
The Caduceus with 1 snake is the 'wand of magic' used mostly by commercial or military organizations.
The real one for medicine is the Asclepius, with 1 snake.
Here is a good explanation: drblayney.com...
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Agartha
No, I believe what you say Agartha, no need for a source from you even
as far as I'm concerned. I know you're ABOVE any fabrications, I know
you're ABOVE TOP SECRET.COM baby. We do have that in common.
originally posted by: John333
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.
here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.
your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.
look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.
Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?
Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.
i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.
here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.
your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.
look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.
Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?
Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.
i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?
Both Sumerian& Canaanite languages were branches of a proposed proto-semitc language.
There are some Canaanite snake spells that purportedly have been dated to between 3000 and 2400 BC, which potentially makes them older than the earliest Sumerian writings.
Proto-Canaanite / First Tongue / Egyptian - Viewzone
originally posted by: John333
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.
here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.
your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.
look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.
Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?
Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.
i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?
Both Sumerian& Canaanite languages were branches of a proposed proto-semitc language.
There are some Canaanite snake spells that purportedly have been dated to between 3000 and 2400 BC, which potentially makes them older than the earliest Sumerian writings.
Proto-Canaanite / First Tongue / Egyptian - Viewzone
well 3000bc isnt that far back. sumeria is actually dated to be around 3500bc. so we kind of see what i was saying. we would have no written record of canaanite pre-flood era because writing began with sumeria. so we would have to get the stone tablets from the sumerian kings who previously before learning writing and mathematics had the stories passed on to them by their ancestors orally from generation to generation.
id say though u dont want to waste time with spells of any kind. and especially not from the canaanite era. unless, they came from seth and his descendents. everyone else was doing nonesense that was not in tune with the will of nature and the universe.. God.
originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: John333
You could use two strings instead of snakes. Or 2 vines. Or 2 Trees. There are many things that could be used that do not have occult symbolism attached.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: John333
satan was spirit in paradise. just like the serpent.. as obviously all in the garden were perfect beings.. including adam and eve at the time before the fall.
here on earth we experience satan not as spirit ut as carnal desire. no not because uve never seen satan means hes not real or in spirit form. the ego desires of the flesh are satan's manifestation.. in man. the spiritual desires which we tend to neglect in favour of material satisfaction and comfort. so no you cannot invoke, evoke or summon satan. he is you. the flesh part of you. your spirit, is God's sinless spirit which he has imparted to you. we're touching the paradox. its metaphors, symbolism. its fiction but not fiction. the personified form of materialistic drive is satan. it is inherent in all living things who have yet to get in touch with their higher spiritual identity and its moral behaviour. take away the spirit from the body and u are left symbolically with pure satan. a robot, without a conscience, just its programming to keep it going. survive, eat, have sex, fight for territory to minimize resistance from accessing your food source to keep survivng.. for no reason at all.
your task here... prevent the desires of the flesh from corrupting your spirit. allow the spirit to be driver and not the body. the body/flesh is gonna probably get you comforts, but it cannot give you eternal life in an eternal state in the heavenly realms. so.. we choose. dont take the bible stories too literally. they are what i call fictional truths. truths encoded in works of fiction with history incorporated to convey a message. a moral of the story. the message is more important than the story. so you need to get the message. most important thing.
look to the sumerian story. the evil dragon was destroyed and its body used to create the flesh of man. genesis was formed from those sumerian stories. the message was extracted and restructured into a new story.. genesis. same message.. just a different way of telling it.
Why would you assume that Sumerian creation myth preceded Canaanite (Proto-Hebrew) creation? Where is your evidence?
Perhaps Akkadian/Sumerian/Babylonian myth copied from an earlier Canaanite source? There were, most definitely, Canaanite tribes in existence before the Sumerian empire. The Sumerian culture was of Canaanite origin.
i didnt claim that sumerian stories preceded canaanite stories. but lets put it this way. if there was a flood that killed everyone except one family, then the stories we have would have come from that one family. back then as far as i can recall, there was no written language. all was conveyed orally for a long time. so maybe you can link me to some of these canaanite stories and their claimed source preceding sumeria? the first civilization with writing?
Both Sumerian& Canaanite languages were branches of a proposed proto-semitc language.
There are some Canaanite snake spells that purportedly have been dated to between 3000 and 2400 BC, which potentially makes them older than the earliest Sumerian writings.
Proto-Canaanite / First Tongue / Egyptian - Viewzone
well 3000bc isnt that far back. sumeria is actually dated to be around 3500bc. so we kind of see what i was saying. we would have no written record of canaanite pre-flood era because writing began with sumeria. so we would have to get the stone tablets from the sumerian kings who previously before learning writing and mathematics had the stories passed on to them by their ancestors orally from generation to generation.
id say though u dont want to waste time with spells of any kind. and especially not from the canaanite era. unless, they came from seth and his descendents. everyone else was doing nonesense that was not in tune with the will of nature and the universe.. God.
You have made two assumptions here, one that Sumerian culture had writing from 'day one' and the other that there were not written languages previous to it.
Neither assumption is correct.
Although the Canaanite writings were dated from 3000 BC, the fact that they had been translated into Egyptian hieroglyph indicates that they had been in existence sufficiently early enough to have been in common use and to have traveled from Canaan to Egypt.
The structure of Genesis is that of seven, shorter, personal, eye-witness accounts and histories, assembled into a single document.
In the Genesis accounts, only supernatural entities do supernatural things. In the Sumerian accounts, no such distinction is made. Nor are the Sumerian accounts attributed to any particular author/eyewitness.
A full comparative reading of both accounts reveals that, despite having a few similarities, they are vastly different in style, reasoning and meaning.
In my understanding; the snakes are biological representations of spiraling DNA around the spine of the human being,
originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
Why snakes? Why not something a bit more friendly and sweet? How about 2 angels or 2 Dolphins? Whatever the reason I do not like it.
originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: John333
You could use two strings instead of snakes. Or 2 vines. Or 2 Trees. There are many things that could be used that do not have occult symbolism attached.