"Cecil" the Lion Hunted and Killed

a reply to: Grimpachi

You want to form vigilante, assassin groups to hunt down people who legally hunt. Because YOU deem them as EVIL.

While I am not set about making such groups on own but sure do hope some resourceful persons like big businessmen or government power holders do approve and bank roll them. What a nice service to humanity that would be. Saving children from sexual predators and animals from egoistic hunters.

Once even few "clean ups" have occurred in these two areas, the predators in other crimes like drug smuggling, human trafficking, organs trade, pharma drugs adulteration, wide scale prostitution and pimping etc. would get scared of the "ghost squads" hunting and killing them with purpose and precision. Soon they will become non existent.

According to Stratrisks site, in Bangladesh, there was an area badly infested with all sorts of mafia conducting extortions, smuggling, slave labor and similar crimes with police not able to stop them or even being involved with them. The government formed the "ghost squads" and in six months the "mafia" factor impeding the daily lives of the society and economy was solved for good. For one criminal killed and taken out of the equation, 10 others closed their crime shops and disappeared.

In certain instances, heavily armed masked men dropped to a scene and killed the mafia honco in the broad day light in front of crowds. The message got through. Not only peace and decorum returned in the society, the economy took a major growth route also. AWESOME !!!

Wanna see what Sweaty Teddy thinks?

I copied some text from his facebook before he deletes anything. I have already had a couple comments deleted that reflect my opinion without being defamitory. Although I dont give a crap about that now. He has shown himself to be a gun totin' ignorant fool. Yes, my 2c.

www.ignorancedenied.com...

Today I found out Cecils brother, hopeful dominant replacement, was also killed.

I am sure Ted is just getting all kinds of warm fuzzies out of that.

a reply to: smirkley

FYI the report that the lions brother died was false.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Thought I heard that on CNN. Ah well, misinformed again.

Doesnt change my position though.

Nothing 100% confirmed, but . . .

Not brother -- not dead

David Macdonald, from the same group, referred to Jericho and Cecil as brothers in a statement Thursday. Earlier Saturday, he issued a statement: "Cecil's coalition involved a partnership with another beautiful male, nicknamed Jericho. Jericho is as likely as Cecil to be the father of some of the cubs, so he has a stake in their survival. Right now, Jericho is in good health and he (and the lionesses) will defend the cubs. We have no evidence of any new coalition threatening them so there is a good chance that all will be well."

www.usatoday.com...

It is being reported that all hunting around the park is now suspended they are not saying what the radius is, but it looks like they don't want another luring incident on their hands.

Jericho was rumored to be killed but is still alive, he is also protecting the cubs, it's possible he might be the father of some of them. Looks like Cecil didn't have exclusive dibs on all the lionesses in the pride.

Ooh look, Sam became Sabrina and is also very much enjoying killing animals for his pleasure.

Source

Source (eng)

His facebook!

a reply to: victor7

You do know they just moved on to another area, right?

Your "answer" to this problem is nothing of the sort. Sorry.

Doctor becomes second American named in African lion-killing investigation: Pittsburgh gynecologist who has posed with dead elephants, hippos, zebras and ostriches 'killed lion in illegal hunt'
•Pennsylvania Dr. Jan Seski is accused of killing a lion in April and his guides have been arrested in the African Country

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Now, jan might already be home, busy with jerking off while he thinks about killing.
But Sammie is still there, it would be so nice to see an article about his arrest.

a reply to: seagull

Sorry Mod, I do not know they have moved to another area.

Would nice to confirm your findings with some sources like links etc.

You Americans think that only answer to global problems have to come from your decisions and interpretations, which first have meet your selfish interests. Pathetic!!

a reply to: victor7

You Americans think that only answer to global problems have to come from your decisions and interpretations, which first have meet your selfish interests. Pathetic!!

Wow, nicely done! You showed me.

To be quite honest, many Americans couldn't careless about the outside world. Not right, but the way it is.

Those "ghost squads", I hate to break this to ya, didn't get the big fish that run those operations. I'd guess they didn't come any where near them. Why? Because they live elsewhere. Monaco, or some other non extradition country. So what happens when you little "ghost squads" drive 'em out? They went elsewhere to rebuild their operations. In all likelihood, didn't miss a beat.

Your little "ghost squads" didn't change a thing. So what's pathetic, again?

a reply to: seagull

Again Mod, instead of making stories out of assumptions, it would be better to support them with actual facts and links.

a reply to: victor7

Check in with Interpol, there's all kinds of reports out there.

It doesn't do any good to shut down the small fry if the big fish get away to start over somewhere else.

Animal Trafficking.

Human Trafficking.

The amount of money these sordid practices bring in, also bring with them money. Money means power, influence. Your method of dealing with them, while satisfying on a visceral level doesn't do anything to solve the problem in a macro sense. Why? Because the money men/women aren't being touched. In many cases, legally they can't be touched.

Out of all the countries named in the human trafficking report I linked--two out of five countries reported no convictions for it. Forty percent. Why? Power. Influence. Corruption.

Again, what are vigilantes going to do about that?

a reply to: seagull

Again, what are vigilantes going to do about that?

Cut the source of demand and the supply will choke itself. Any guy from anywhere in the world goes to hunting after paying thousands and ends up dead, horrendously maimed, imprisoned for 15 years in third world jails with 30 men in 10x10 cell and 95% of the demand will be clean out right there.

Problem is "vigilantes" have not yet been unleashed.

While partially true, every problem cannot be blamed on power, corruption and influence.

Wonder why in Saudi Arabia, women can walk the "dark or lone" streets anytime during the day, loaded with expensive jewellery and cash and not be bothered in any way.

Wonder why American or Westerns are not comfortable at all visiting places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran............because the word out there is..........."it is not safe" one can be killed or kidnapped etc.

Similar word spreading in the hunter/child predator communities about going on a expedition and disappearing or coming back with one hand chopped off or screw driver poked into one eye (like Saudi Arabian punishment system) and 95% of the "cowards" will NOT even dream of making a trip.

a reply to: earthling42

That woman as a picture of a crock swallowing a naked man on her FB.

a reply to: seagull

Regarding "vigilantes" going after the big fish in the $20B a year trade, that would work much more better. If they are sitting Monaco or Switzerland then that would be the "home ground" for a local spec ops to carry out a more technical and advanced "clean out".

a reply to: FlySolo

A good photoshop

a reply to: seagull

In many cases, legally they can't be touched.

Who said the volunteer vigilante spec ops are "lovers of the corrupt law". Spec ops with even middle grade resources are very efficient in operating.

In India I think, 1980s and early 1990s there were problems with terrorism in a province. 60,000 people were killed in bombing and hit and run type AK attacks. Finally, government let loose the "ghost squads". Any one, small or big, known to have such "terrorist" links was liquidated either in direct firefight or silent killing. Within a year, the terrorist elements were wiped out.

Take out enough or even few small frys and the big one's do not have enough cover to carry out their ops and protection etc.

a reply to: victor7

that would be the "home ground" for a local spec ops to carry out a more technical and advanced "clean out".

Who gives those spec ops groups their orders?

Do you not realize just how much money is involved here? Or how high the influence goes? This sort of thing will not be solved by "cleaning them out".

As long as there is a market, there will be sellers, and worse, there will be buyers.

Look at this map.

This will give you some notion of the pervasiveness of the problem. It goes beyond merely horrific.

This as well.


Take a moment to put the sheer magnitude of the problem, and tell me again how well your "solution" will work.

a reply to: seagull

Thanks for the links and info. however such stats and findings are more bureaucratic. UN is one of the most corrupt global organizations in the world. Many of the projects initiated by the UN become a source of corruption for few. For practical world, time and patience is not there to have UN run its slow and stagnant corrupt show.

Who will give orders to these "volunteer spec ops"? The entity that is concerned about animal killing or child predating etc. That entity can be an individual(s) or business group or someone really resourceful etc. etc.

The point is who will have that noble moralist focus to solving the immense hurt being conducted on the "helpless, weak, vulnerable" animals and children. And that is why I say that vigilantes have not yet been unleashed. I bet once they are, common folks might oppose them on forums like ATS (to play safe with the legal authorities) but in closed group would be happy that such efforts are being made.

End of it all, vigilantes are not the only answer. Even if they are operated and results are not very promising then other modes and methods can be formed and applied. Going through the paperwork type deal will only be equivalent to DEA efforts to control drugs coming into the US. And, US is not a corrupt, inefficient, lousy third world but in its case it is the "coddling" rules and legal bindings that DEA has to operate within. CIA hit squads cleaning out the Drug barons and their families will work in better way. Such methods have worked well in other areas regarding much more severe problems.