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Article I bans Cyprus from participating in any political union or economic union with any other state.
originally posted by: MrSpad
As for the Cyprus people do not give Turkey a hard time because they were responding to a Coup by the Military Junta in Greece in an attempt to annex Cyprus to Greece which Turkey said violated the Treaty of Guarantee
originally posted by: MrSpad
That lead to the military regime in Greece collapsing and a return to Constitutional rule in Greece. Both sides were accused of doing bad things as is always the case in war.
originally posted by: Heliocentric
originally posted by: MrSpad
As for the Cyprus people do not give Turkey a hard time because they were responding to a Coup by the Military Junta in Greece in an attempt to annex Cyprus to Greece which Turkey said violated the Treaty of Guarantee
I wonder who you mean by 'people'. The United Nations has clearly condemned the Turkish invasion and occupation of Cyprus and has taken five resolutions against it. The UN has also called on its members not to recognize Northern 'Turkish' Cyprus.
en.wikipedia.org...
If you mean the US, their stance on the matter is ambiguous since Turkey is a member of NATO and an ally in a greater geopolitical game than Cyprus. After the invasion 1974, the US did impose an arms embargo on both Turkey and the so called Rep. of Cyprus.The US embargo on Turkey was lifted after three years by President Jimmy Carter, although the embargo on Rep. of Cyprus is still in place.
originally posted by: MrSpad
That lead to the military regime in Greece collapsing and a return to Constitutional rule in Greece. Both sides were accused of doing bad things as is always the case in war.
Since when is it okay to invade another country just because you suspect that another country is planning a coup in that country? Perhaps you think we should thank Turkey for sapping the Greek Junta and occupying Cyprus?
originally posted by: MrSpad
They did not suspect a coup the Greek controlled Cyprus military had a coup and started plans to annex Cyprus to Greece while at the same time launching attacks on the Turkish enclaves which they knew would resist the annexation. The Turks saw this as a violation of the treaty and invaded. And yes the Turkish invasion and failure of the Greek Military Junta to annex Greece for ending military rule in Greece although that was not the intent.
Although even with Coups and treaty violations aside attacking the Turkish enclaves made Turkish intervention assured.
originally posted by: Heliocentric
originally posted by: MrSpad
They did not suspect a coup the Greek controlled Cyprus military had a coup and started plans to annex Cyprus to Greece while at the same time launching attacks on the Turkish enclaves which they knew would resist the annexation. The Turks saw this as a violation of the treaty and invaded. And yes the Turkish invasion and failure of the Greek Military Junta to annex Greece for ending military rule in Greece although that was not the intent.
Although even with Coups and treaty violations aside attacking the Turkish enclaves made Turkish intervention assured.
So, according to you, Turkey was 'forced' by the hand of Greece to invade Cyprus? Kind of the same reasoning that 'forced' Russia to invade Georgia and Ukraine? Let's just say that I went along with thins reasoning - which I don't, but let's just say if, this all happened in 1974. Today, Greece is no longer ruled by a military junta. It has a democratically elected government and is a member of the European Union. The country is devastated economically and does in no way, militarily or other, pose a threat to Turkey or the Turkish Cypriots. What justifies Turkey's occupation of more than a third of Cyprus today?
originally posted by: 23432
No one really believes that the Cypriot Greeks have the maturity and humanity to keep the peace between themselves and the Cypriot Turks .
originally posted by: Heliocentric
originally posted by: 23432
No one really believes that the Cypriot Greeks have the maturity and humanity to keep the peace between themselves and the Cypriot Turks .
What if you replaced "Cypriot Greeks" with Palestinians, and said that no one really believes that the Palestinians have the maturity and humanity to make peace between themselves and with the Israelis, how do you think people in this forum would react?
originally posted by: Heliocentric
Thanks for the video! I know that there are Muslims for Israel, I even made a thread about it years ago:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I wasn't really trying anything, except provoking a reflection on your opinion of Greek Cypriots. Obviously it is not the best and somewhat resembles what many Israelis feel about Palestinians.