Nepaliese boy killed in religious sacrifice

This is so sad. For those who don't believe that religion does terrible things here is the indisputable truth.

www.cnn.com...

Young Nepalese boy slain in human sacrifice ritual

a reply to: CB328

Sickening to think that this kind of thing still takes place in the 21st Century.


Reminds me of this:

"Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and said to him, Abraham!' And he said, 'Here I am.' 2 And He said, 'Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you,'"(Gen. 22:1-2).

a reply to: CB328

A Nepalese man has confessed to the murder of a young boy after saying a local holy man advised him that a human sacrifice would heal his ailing son, local police said.

The body of 10-year-old Jivan Kohar was found on July 24 on the outskirts of Kudiya village in southwest Nepal. The child had gone missing three days.

Police superintendent Nal Prasad Upadhyaya, who headed the investigation, told CNN on Monday that Kodai Harijan admitted committing the gruesome crime with his relatives after consulting the priest. In some cultures, priests are believed to have magical or spiritual powers to cure the sick.

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This is disturbing beyond belief. Religion can be atrocious, but it's the abusers of it that commit these insane inhumane acts. In this case the priest and the murderer.

What is probably the saddest part, is that this man was so ignorant as to trust a 'priest' that his ailing son would get better by the murder of an innocent child.

How a man, even in a third world country, can be so naive through desperation to commit such a disgusting act is beyond me.

Religion is a tool to control the masses. Third world countries that lack proper education are a cesspool for religious frauds.

The 'priest' should have a publicly shamed trial and be executed along with the murderer.



Ghost

This is so sad. For those who don't believe that religion does terrible things here is the indisputable truth.

a reply to: CB328

Exactly! I can't imagine how many innocent lives have been taken over the millennium for the sake of religion. You have to wonder if religion wasn't devised for an evil intent. This story was upsetting, poor kid.

I'm not sure how many of you self-righteous people here have children, but I wouldn't lump the father in with the priest quite as heavily.

Remember, this isn't America where they live, grew up, and were educated. Much like any other third world nation, there are prevailing beliefs that permeate the minds of those that know nothing else.

So before you pass judgement consider the Father was merely doing anything he could to save his child. Even tho it is wrong in our "holier than thou" eyes.

originally posted by: UmbraSumus
a reply to: CB328

Sickening to think that this kind of thing still takes place in the 21st Century.


Reminds me of this:

"Now it came about after these things, that God tested Abraham, and said to him, Abraham!' And he said, 'Here I am.' 2 And He said, 'Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you,'"(Gen. 22:1-2).

Really? That out of context quote from the Bible reminds you of this? You are aware that the Israelites were surrounded by tribes that practiced child sacrifice, but themselves did not do it? Have you read more of that story, where God tells Abraham not to sacrifice Isaac? Have you researched the context, meaning, and significance of the story at all?

Nope. No you have not.

originally posted by: CB328
This is so sad. For those who don't believe that religion does terrible things here is the indisputable truth.

www.cnn.com...

Young Nepalese boy slain in human sacrifice ritual

I don't think anybody would deny that religions do bad things. What people deny is that it's the RELIGION itself that is the sole cause. Whenever someone uses a story to claim that Islam or Christianity is evil because of the actions of a select few, some people--including myself--are not so arrogant to demonize the religion itself and instead realize that the true problem is evil PEOPLE. People use religion as a vessel to do evil. People use politics and many other things as a vessel as well. Hell, people have and could use atheism as a vessel to do wrong. The difference between you and I is that you and others would ignore the vast, vast amount of good that has come from religion and instead choose to focus on the evil that bad people have done by manipulating it, while I realize that evil exists independently and will be done regardless of the vessel.

originally posted by: CB328
This is so sad. For those who don't believe that religion does terrible things here is the indisputable truth.

www.cnn.com...

Young Nepalese boy slain in human sacrifice ritual

One man's sin and you condemn all who are religious?

Hypocrite!

Human & Animal sacrifice is an ancient tradition its been around since the beginning, is still around, and will be around in the future, secretly of course because its necessary for appeasement of the Gods. You choose or they choose- an illusory aspect of control. It is sad though.

a reply to: UmbraSumus

Your post may as well read:

Is there any way we can blame Christianity?
Because I hate Christianity!

a reply to: CB328

Ignorance killed this child. If the killer had not been an ignorant, he would have never believed the 'holy man'.
Education is the only cure for this type of crimes, as education could make people have a basic understanding of how the human body works, thus understanding that a sacrifice could never heal somebody who is ill.

a reply to: TheJesuit

What's sad is that people still worship such beings. They have free-will not to but choose to be destructive. Regardless of what spirits whispers in someone's ear, it is their responsibility to have self-control to not harm others but to treat others as they would like to be treated.

originally posted by: Cygnis
I'm not sure how many of you self-righteous people here have children, but I wouldn't lump the father in with the priest quite as heavily.

Remember, this isn't America where they live, grew up, and were educated. Much like any other third world nation, there are prevailing beliefs that permeate the minds of those that know nothing else.

So before you pass judgement consider the Father was merely doing anything he could to save his child. Even tho it is wrong in our "holier than thou" eyes.

He was willing to murder somebody else's child to save his own. There is no excuse for that. It was completely selfish, regardless of what the priest said. And let me take a wild guess here, his son didn't get better. You can't blame this one on poor education. This is complete lack of morality and empathy. The father knew he was committing murder to save his own. Truly despicable. Did he not even consider the other child's family or that they would have to go through much worse than he was? Sorry, there's no rationalization for that. The father was a selfish scumbag.

The replies to this thread are pretty surprising. Christianity and religion in general is being blamed but nothing is being said about the religion that they themselves adhered to, namely HInduism. Bad religion got that priest to order the killing of the child and bad religion is what turned that so called father into a monster.

Difference between this and any other sacrifice, its on a picture for display for the western community. You would be amazed how religious sacrifice is in plain sight and you call it by other names.

But heeey Humans, make them a world of imaginary stuff and they will eventually believe it.

a reply to: CB328

I don't think anyone has ever said that horrible things don't happen in the name of religion.

What we ask is that you maintain a sense of perspective. How much good has also been done?

The other thing is to understand that just as we cannot ever have socialism or communism because, as the excuse always goes, we have not found the "right" people to run it, similarly, you have the people you have associated with every institution on earth. There is NO institution out there that is pure and incorrupt because there is NO human out there who is pure and incorrupt, and we can make all the rules and precepts we want, but every human is a flawed vessel who will manage to somehow distort that pure intent. Some of us less than others.

Faith is a personal institution. Some of us keep it better than others. Some of us take it beyond the pale.

a reply to: Cygnis

Much like any other third world nation, there are prevailing beliefs that permeate the minds of those that know nothing else.

Wait. Let me think about this for a sec.......

Yes!!. There are "prevailing beliefs" that permeate the minds of those that know nothing else.

Exactly.

And it's right here in a "First World" nation. Rampant!
Makes one wonder....

originally posted by: WeRpeons

This is so sad. For those who don't believe that religion does terrible things here is the indisputable truth.

a reply to: CB328

Exactly! I can't imagine how many innocent lives have been taken over the millennium for the sake of religion. You have to wonder if religion wasn't devised for an evil intent. This story was upsetting, poor kid.

Nobody "devised" religion, it wasn't something that a panel of executives presided over and said "Hey, religion might be a useful tool of control, let's start coming up with some ideas."

Quite unlike your particular brand of ideology (atheism), which may very well have been "devised" by a panel of modernist executives, religion came naturally to man. Man, ever fearful and curious, desiring an explanation for his existence. It really is that simple.

You people are comical. Sometimes I wonder if you even think.

a reply to: Talorc

Nobody "devised" religion, it wasn't something that a panel of executives presided over and said "Hey, religion might be a useful tool of control, let's start coming up with some ideas".

That is, actually, EXACTLY what happened with "Christianity", about 300 years after 'Jesus' died.
A group of guys (no women) got together to hash out what they wanted the "public" to read.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Talorc

Nobody "devised" religion, it wasn't something that a panel of executives presided over and said "Hey, religion might be a useful tool of control, let's start coming up with some ideas".

That is, actually, EXACTLY what happened with "Christianity", 300 years after 'Jesus' died.
A group of guys (no women) got together to hash out what they wanted the "public" to read.

Show me the proof lady.

I guess you're referring to the council of Nicea? That was just an attempt at establishing some kind of mainstream canon law. They were constantly dealing with breakaway factions and an assortment of "heresies" like Arianism, Nestorianism etc, some of which weren't really helping people aside from muddying the waters and misinterpreting stuff. Kind of like modern New Agers, they didn't have a common thread and were mostly a load of garbage, theologically-wise. But then again, who am I to judge? Maybe their beliefs weren't garbage, but still- the crux of the issue was that they just wanted some kind of common ground where they could debate theology from a single base interpretation.

Most every religion has done something similar, they want some kind of unifying starting point. I doubt it was some massive conspiracy for control, though you can think what you want.

But guess what? It STILL didn't work. Not long after Nicea, the Catholic schism tore the church in half, and various local "heresies" still persisted. If it was a big conspiracy for control, it must have been a sh*tty one.