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originally posted by: six67seven
1. Dr. Brown probably deserves 24/7 security so that he doesn't commit suicide via two shots to the head.
2. Not sure if thenewamerican.com link is accurate.
For six years, former Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key and a small group of dedicated supporters have conducted a heroic and intensive inquiry into the Oklahoma City bombing. Against incredible odds and enormous political pressures, they have produced a critically important report on "the deadliest terrorist attack ever on American soil." Their nearly 600-page study — the size of a Los Angeles telephone book — is an impressive achievement and a vital contribution in the quest for justice. Jam-packed with important court documents, trial transcripts, affidavits, expert testimony, photographs (including 50 full-color evidentiary photographs), illustrations, suspect sketches, FBI and ATF documents, and eyewitness statements, the Final Report finally presents the American public with the definitive report on the bombing and the subsequent federal investigation/cover-up and trials.
Timothy McVeigh, the convicted and confessed "lone bomber," has been executed, but that does not close this case. Along with millions of other Americans, the members of the Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee (OKBIC) are convinced by overwhelming evidence that McVeigh did not act alone and that his co-conspirators are still at large. Unlike most other Americans, however, the OKBIC members have not merely followed the bombing investigation through media reports and government press releases; they have been directly, personally involved, literally immersed in the investigation of the bombing almost since day one.
A completely new in-depth analysis of photographic, seismic, and blast data by Robert D. Vernon, president of Microlithic Technologies, adds even more credibility to the already overpowering evidence that high-explosive charges were used along with the truck bomb. The excellent color photographs and computer-generated illustrations of the Murrah Building greatly enhance the effectiveness of Vernon’s compelling presentation.
A significant portion of the Vernon study is devoted to examination of the evidence concerning the size of the crater created by the truck bomb. "Of all the items of physical evidence at the Murrah Building site, the crater, its location, and its dimensions are the single most significant indication of the location and performance of the explosive device that was allegedly contained in the Ryder truck. Yet no item of evidence has been more widely misreported and misrepresented."
Vernon shows that government statements, press reports, the government’s expert witnesses at the trials, and supposed "expert" studies all greatly inflated the size of the crater, which thereby provided "evidence" for a much bigger truck bomb, thus rendering the government’s scenario more plausible.
FBI Special Agent Dave Williams, one of the FBI lab "experts" singled out for special censure in the previously mentioned IG report, claimed that the crater was 32 feet in diameter. A study by a federal Building Performance Assessment Team (BPAT) composed of personnel from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) lists the crater diameter as 28 feet.
As Vernon demonstrates from photographic evidence, though, "the actual, penetrating crater cannot reasonably be construed to exceed 18 feet in its longest dimension." This is very significant. Vernon notes: "The very foundation upon which all further BPAT blast loading calculations were based — an explosive charge equivalent to 4,000 pounds of TNT — was a deceptively overstated crater diameter.... According to the BPAT’s own calculations, a lesser air blast ... would have been insufficient to have caused column G16 [A7] to fail in shear."
originally posted by: deloprator20000
The fall of WTC 7 is the most difficult for skeptics to explain and the explanations they do offer often do not stand up to scrutiny.
Yet, another way to show that explosives were used is to analyze the seismic and audio data using spectrum analysis. It could be that the sounds and vibrations of explosives have a different spectral signature than does a collapsing structure. Furthermore, it may be possible to triangulate where certain sounds came from in the building and correlate that with the spectral signature, showing that it may or may not have the signature of explosives.
Comparing the sound signatures made by demolished buildings with those made by unplanned collaspes will also help. The visual differences alone are quite revealing.
originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: Rocker2013
I'm starting to think these threads are a way for truthers to give themselves stars.
I thought this issue had been "solved" years ago.
originally posted by: Blackmarketeer
LaBTop, this dovetails nicely with the public statements by Barry Jennings (Deputy Director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority), He has repeatedly told his story of hearing explosions on the 20th and 22nd floor while trapped inside. He stated that not only did an explosion demolish the stairway he was descending leaving him dangling for his life, but that he and his co-worker saw afterward that BOTH twin towers were STILL STANDING.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
Why does it have to make sense to you ??? Criminal organizations operate on levels you do not understand, but I bet you BELIEVE you know just how everything works.
originally posted by: liveandlearn
I remember hearing a longer version of Sliverstein speaking about this many years ago.
link
A second, one-minute video clip on the WTC 7 collapse is taken from a PBS documentary. In this clip, the owner of building 7, Larry Silverstein, talks about the World Trade Center 7 collapse on 9/11, stating "I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they were going to able to contain the fire." Silverstein then relates his conversation with the fire commander: "I said 'you know, we've had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.'" Silverstein follows this with, "and they made that decision to pull, and then we watched the building collapse." To see this clip:
Pull it implies there are already mechanisms in place to collapse the building. Question is did the fire chief know or did Silverstein just word it that way cause it seemed to me it was his (silverstein's) suggestion
you tube
Apologies, tried to embed but has been a few years and guess things have changed.
originally posted by: mymojo
Im a civil engineer, and havr a PE in New York.
Yes, WTC 7 came down by controlled demolition, and the towers came down by advanced nuclear weaponry..
Please google RICH SHERIDAN APFN 911
Thanks.
originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: Rocker2013
This cat?
It must be true!
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: In4ormant
This cat?
It must be true!
Then there is this one....
originally posted by: samkent
If you believe Labtop then ALL professional seismologists are in on the conspiracy too.
To believe in this conspiracy 99% of these must be in on it:
Physicists
Architects
Engineers
Professors
Pilots
TV news
Print news
NYPD
NYFD
Did I miss some?
originally posted by: samkent
Did I miss some?
originally posted by: Rocker2013
The more than a million people in NYC on that day who DIDN'T hear any explosive charges detonating before or during the collapse of building 7.
The millions of people watching the news all around the world who DIDN'T hear any explosives detonating before or during the collapse of building 7.
We're somehow supposed to believe that everyone in New York was suddenly rendered deaf, when any explosives detonated to take down that building would have been heard for miles around, throughout Manhattan at the very least.
originally posted by: CALGARIAN
Yes, this was def FINALLY resolved... back in 2001.
The MASSIVE amount of fire debris that crushed the side of the building caused it to collapse.
WHY (or who) would have planted explosives in WTC7? lol.
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: Rocker2013
The more than a million people in NYC on that day who DIDN'T hear any explosive charges detonating before or during the collapse of building 7.
The millions of people watching the news all around the world who DIDN'T hear any explosives detonating before or during the collapse of building 7.
We're somehow supposed to believe that everyone in New York was suddenly rendered deaf, when any explosives detonated to take down that building would have been heard for miles around, throughout Manhattan at the very least.
Well obviously they used super duper sekret "hush a boom" silent explosives!