NASA basically announced there's no doubt life exist on other planets Kepler 452-b

Basically there's no doubt that life exists on other planets. This is like finding a needle in a haystack because we're basically looking for planets that can have life like we have on earth but we don't know how life forms. If Panspermia life can evolve in all sorts of different ways and on planets very different from earth.

The universe is fine tuned to produce life just like it's fine tuned to produce stars, planets and solar systems. Where this fine tuning comes from is another debate but like I said this is like finding a needle in a haystack based on our VERY LIMITED view of life and how life forms.

A great day indeed!

a reply to: neoholographic

I'm listening to the same press conference and I have not heard them say anything about life......care to quote? Now I do believe something is out there whether it's microbes or small critters but don't recall them mentioning anything about life...

a reply to: neoholographic

Care to show the link where it is stated, even obliquely, that there is no doubt there is life on other worlds? A snippet of the announcement perhaps?

a reply to: neoholographic

Speaker is saying that it is closest planet to earth (Kepler) in respect to having a good sun...asked point blank is their possible life on this particular planet..speaker said again that this particular planet is closest to home but did not say 100% life...


Another question=Planet size? "Just starting to get estimates that 25% of stars have planets similar to ours"...(I'm assuming in our immediate area)...."planets like jupiter are rare".. "rock planets are more common and planets like earth are more common than the larger one"..(snippets of course from the discussion)

originally posted by: chrismarco
a reply to: neoholographic

Speaker is saying that it is the closest planet to earth...asked point blank is their possible life on this particular planet..speaker said again that this particular planet is closest to home but did not say 100% life...

BINGO!

He just said it and like I said it's like finding a needle in a haystack based on our limited view on how life forms.

THIS IS HUGE NEWS!!

This planet has spent 6 BILLION YEARS in it's habitable zone. He said planets like earth appear to be "QUITE COMMON."

WOW!!

Big news indeed...


This artist's concept compares Earth (left) to the new planet, called Kepler-452b, which is about 60 percent larger in diameter.
Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/T. Pyle

Kepler-452b is 60 percent larger in diameter than Earth and is considered a super-Earth-size planet. While its mass and composition are not yet determined, previous research suggests that planets the size of Kepler-452b have a good chance of being rocky.

While Kepler-452b is larger than Earth, its 385-day orbit is only 5 percent longer. The planet is 5 percent farther from its parent star Kepler-452 than Earth is from the Sun. Kepler-452 is 6 billion years old, 1.5 billion years older than our sun, has the same temperature, and is 20 percent brighter and has a diameter 10 percent larger.

Exciting time!


This size and scale of the Kepler-452 system compared alongside the Kepler-186 system and the solar system. Kepler-186 is a miniature solar system that would fit entirely inside the orbit of Mercury.
Credits: NASA/JPL-CalTech/R. Hurt

Source - NASA

If you look at how solar systems form, it's just no doubt!

We will find microbial life throughout our solar system. It's really about how long a planet can hold it's water. When you look at Venus and Earth it will tell you a lot.

Venus was too close to the sun to hold it's water and is just a fiery, hot place. Earth on the other hand hold it's water but will eventually look like Venus in a billion years or so.

So in this planets past, the sun was smaller.

The point is, in a billion years or so a civilization will look at Earth the same way we look at Kepler 452-b and they will ask, did life exist on this planet in the past?

Again, unless life has some special ingredient that can never be produced anywhere else in the universe, there's really no doubt that life exist in the universe.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Apperently it's a 'near earth like planet' that is in the Goldilocks zone.

Yet again the horse has bolted.

That's it... *starts packing*

originally posted by: elevenaugust
Big news indeed...

This artist's concept compares Earth (left) to the new planet, called Kepler-452b, which is about 60 percent larger in diameter.
Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/T. Pyle

Kepler-452b is 60 percent larger in diameter than Earth and is considered a super-Earth-size planet. While its mass and composition are not yet determined, previous research suggests that planets the size of Kepler-452b have a good chance of being rocky.

While Kepler-452b is larger than Earth, its 385-day orbit is only 5 percent longer. The planet is 5 percent farther from its parent star Kepler-452 than Earth is from the Sun. Kepler-452 is 6 billion years old, 1.5 billion years older than our sun, has the same temperature, and is 20 percent brighter and has a diameter 10 percent larger.

Exciting time!

This size and scale of the Kepler-452 system compared alongside the Kepler-186 system and the solar system. Kepler-186 is a miniature solar system that would fit entirely inside the orbit of Mercury.
Credits: NASA/JPL-CalTech/R. Hurt

Source - NASA

Good post!

Very big news indeed!

www.ustream.tv...

They are still doing the Q and A!

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

That's fantastic news!

Now, thirty years late, can we please start ploughing more money into advanced propulsion research than we do into rocket propulsion methods used today? Pretty please?

It just upsets me that if we had been working on the hard problems first, those being getting to far flung places without having to put the crew to sleep, or have several generations on a journey, or using unmanned probes, for the last thirty or so years, we would already have a much better grasp of how to deal with insane and "impossible" travel speeds.

It really aggravates me that we cannot just up and go to this newly discovered rock, to every newly discovered rock, at a whim by now. Arthur C Clarke wrote the time table, and everyone else's bloody stupidity meant that we are fantastically late!

I have no issue with their speculation.

But that is all it is. Speculation.
We will never have the capability to travel there, or even see what actually takes place on that planet. We can guess, or formulate what we imagine things would be like, but this isn't proof of anything.

The sheer distance between Earth and Keplar is so massive, that any relative argument for life there is merely a hope.

Fun to dream about? I suppose.

a reply to: neoholographic
One more baby step in the incremental disclosure that life is abundant in the universe. Something we have known subconsciously for thousands of years, but have refused to acknowledge because of social expediency.

a reply to: neoholographic

Honestly OP, you need to turn it down a notch.

This is not evidence of life, this was the a discovery of a planet that may (or may not) be able to harbor life. That is a big difference.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: neoholographic
One more baby step in the incremental disclosure that life is abundant in the universe. Something we have known subconsciously for thousands of years, but have refused to acknowledge because of social expediency.

Exactly!!

This isn't speculation at all. This is like finding a needle in a haystack. There's NOTHING prohibiting life from forming on a planet that can retain it's water in the habitable zone for 6 billion years.

Again, they even said it's planets like ours that our "common." This is the way solar systems form and the same way it has produced stars, planets and moons it produces life.

they cant keep 'extraterrestrial life a secret' anymore, wonder why, what's coming our direction? something big going to make a big splash?
something big and earth shaking about to happen?

originally posted by: havok
I have no issue with their speculation.

But that is all it is. Speculation.
We will never have the capability to travel there, or even see what actually takes place on that planet. We can guess, or formulate what we imagine things would be like, but this isn't proof of anything.

The sheer distance between Earth and Keplar is so massive, that any relative argument for life there is merely a hope.

Fun to dream about? I suppose.

Things that will never happen

"Man will never reach the moon regardless of all future scientific advances. --Dr. Lee DeForest, "Father of Radio & Grandfather of Television."
"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible," -- Lord Kelvin, president Royal Society, 1895.
"The super computer is technologically impossible. It would take all of the water that flows over Niagara Falls to cool the heat generated by the number of vacuum tubes required." Professor of Electrical Engineering, New York University.

Never is a very long time, Havok.

a reply to: TrueBrit

All aboard the SS Brit!