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originally posted by: Answer
A conservative estimate would be in the neighborhood of $500k.
I hope he has his will in order and someone who knows the values will be handling his estate. It's a damn shame when a guy builds a collection like this and some ignorant family member sells them all for pennies on the dollar.
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Kandinsky
Sounds like he may have been an "affiliate" to a gun-running operation by an alphabet agency. He thought he was really working for them -- but they were just using him like a throw-away account to store/hide the guns.
Not a bad place to hide them actually..affluent neighborhood.
originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
Maybe he was a dark web arms dealer or something..
originally posted by: oletimer
What the hell do they put in the bottled water out there.
That's what I want to know. So bizarre...
originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: Macenroe82
Well, if there is a family, they will have a nice amount of case in value from those guns and ammo.
But I'll bet that some governmental agency will seize the lot.
Any takers?
originally posted by: kosmicjack
Thanks LGE!
It's threads like this why I joined ATS. So interesting!
Now back to reading and digging around on the web.
originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
What a crazy amount of firearms and ammo.
His place must have been almost as impressive as mine in fallout3.
Must have been a real chore to have a bath or wash dishes-
Move 500,000 rounds out of the way,then take a bath.
Clear 100 assault rifles out of the kitchen,then wash dishes.
Invite friends round-
hire a forklift to make space for them to sit down.
Who the heck was this guy really?
What an enigma.
Maybe he was a dark web arms dealer or something..
originally posted by: sean
He could of been an owner of a gun shop or goes to guns shows. I like how the cops say we're taking the guns to "secure" them. No crime was committed. Those guns should transfer directly to next of kin.
originally posted by: ATSAlex
I think he is a gun runner for the Mexican cartels, that is why everyone fled and no one wants to explain...
originally posted by: Answer
If he was an illegal arms dealer, he'd have multiples of the same type of firearm... stuff that's fairly cheap and easy to sell.
He had a very wide variety of high-end guns. High-end equals hard to sell.
Nothing about his collection suggests he was selling guns. Some people have money tied up in stocks or their 401K... some have it tied up in collectibles.
originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
They probably chose this guy because it would be impossible to connect him to whatever alphabet agency (or rouge group from an alphabet agency) he was working with. A disposable person so to speak.
The guy may have lost his nuts and marbles and began to blow his cover, and he was "suicided". The easiest thing to do would be withdraw all tendrils of influence and fingerprints of association. Just walk away, cut your losses.
EDIT: I don't think his GF would have been in on it, to many loose ends. There are substances that can "cook you alive", so the story of him feeling "hot" and then dying could have been from poisoning. These substances might not be looked for or show up on a regular toxicology screening. Besides, if it was an alphabet agency's doing -- a little gentle pressure on the medical examiner or coroner wouldn't be hard, I'm sure.
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
So, what say you, ATS? Comments, opinions, implications, predictions for future revelations in the case, whatever! I suspect they will tell us he was a "gun nut" with no ties to government, and that t here will be an effort to sweep the whole thing under the rug.
originally posted by: Bedlam
No military connections. He's not showing any of the little indications that he was alphabet soup either, either under his birthname or one of the aliases he used.
I think he had a lot of disposable cash and a jones for weapon collecting.
originally posted by: Guyfriday
Funny how nobody seems to think this guy was a Russian Sleeper Agent. I mean it's not like the Russians have functional teams working in the US, or anything.
originally posted by: symphonyofblase
originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
So, what say you, ATS? Comments, opinions, implications, predictions for future revelations in the case, whatever! I suspect they will tell us he was a "gun nut" with no ties to government, and that t here will be an effort to sweep the whole thing under the rug.
Funny, you called it exactly. The LAPD is saying that he is nothing more than a loner, and probably one of "them doomsday survivalist types". All things aside though, despite what the LAPD is saying and what his alleged family member is also saying, if this guy really was an agent then I doubt his family would have known about it, and the LAPD would definitely not be privy to that sort of information either.
originally posted by: Answer
I'm a member on a firearm-related board where one of the members is related to this man.
He was a normal guy who was big into collecting guns. There is no conspiracy as far as that goes.
Whether he was murdered or not, I have no idea but the story isn't as "fishy" as the media will try to make it sound. 1,200 guns is a lot but there are several private collections with that many and more.
I used to work for a guy whose collection would make some small armies jealous and he was only 33 years old. He inherited a lot of wealth at a young age and had well over 7 figure money tied up in guns and in the 6 figures worth of ammunition.