LIVE: Greeks react to the Parliament’s vote on eurozone agreement

Protesters gathered in Athens to protest the parliament’s vote on the recent Eurozone agreement of PM Tsipras.

"The agreement, if backed by the Greek Parliament, will give a way to a fresh pack of austerity measures and economic reforms in exchange for a third bailout and Greece’s place in the Eurozone."

Livestream (RT on Youtube) here:


The situation seems to be tense and might escalate, as the riot police enter the square.

Looks like Greek leftist radicals and German fiscal conservatives want the same thing... weird times.

a reply to: ColCurious

Another stream on Reuters Live:

Reuters Live

Things seem to have calmed down a bit. The only casualty as of now was a TV van that was set on fire...

I think most of Europe is asking why they should be paying the Greek peoples taxes. Europe see Greece as fun loving drunks who have #ed there own country up and now want every one else to give them more money so they can keep the party going

a reply to: imod02

The current situation was brought about by Goldman Sachs and corrupt prior Greek governments,believe it or not Greeks actually work longer than most of their European counterparts,now people and companies both go bankrupt and unsecured creditors get nothing with nations its a different story however,the EU counterfeiters set all this up for nations to fail and to get real physical assets in return for money created out of thin air.Democracy and freedom is dying in Europe as the bankers take full control whats coming is probably what the Christians predict.

Just remember in 1953 Germany was forgiven its debt which involved currencies backed by gold and real physical holdings it has no high moral ground to stand on.

the majorety of the europieen peopple won't give an penny moore to Greece
all leaders of the Union have NO mandate for it !

originally posted by: ressiv
the majorety of the europieen peopple won't give an penny moore to Greece
all leaders of the Union have NO mandate for it !

Nah, Once they become a rouge state and a hotbed for terrorism we'll chuck trillions there way.

a reply to: ressiv

You are now beyond the stage in Europe where public opinion means anything.

a reply to: khnum

Nice analysis - from what I understand, Goldman Sachs loaned all this money, allowing Greek politicians to "invest" in the country while still appeasing voters and not raising taxes. As this seemed to be so effective from their first go at it, future representatives would continue such behavior - more loans, Goldman Sachs won't say no to that, and the debt continues to grow (let's keep kicking the can down the road-mentality: "the next guy in office should take care of it").

And now here we are.

I firmly believe this is now a choice between suffering for decades slowly, or suffering for years quickly.

If they pass this deal they will have mass poverty across the country for decades, and will not be able to recover for such a long time, if at all. The youth will be forced to leave to survive, and that will result in less income and an eventual collapse of the country anyway.

However, if they reject this plan, default and tell their lenders to gtfo, they can at least reinstate the Drachma, continue to attract tourists and possibly in even larger numbers from across Europe, and give the youth hope that things are going to change, therefore stimulating internal economic growth.

I really don't think that agreeing to this is the right thing to do. They will end up out of the Euro anyway eventually, because as the IMF has already stated this agreement is nothing close to what's needed.

It's an impossible situation, but borrowing more to stave off the inevitable collapse is not going to help anyone.

They need to shoot down this agreement and suffer the short term consequences, agreeing to it is just sticking a band aid on an Axe wound.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: imod02

the EU counterfeiters set all this up for nations to fail and to get real physical assets in return for money created out of thin air.

....and there you have it in a nutshell


Jane

a reply to: FamCore

Nice article at Zero Hedge today there was a report by AIG compiled in 2008,it confirms all this PIIGS stuff was planned

I want to see how big the protests are going to be when the Greek Govt listens to the protesters, votes AGAINST the measures, and the resulting austerity is way worse than what's being implemented by this deal.

Either way, the Greek Parliament vote should be followed IMMEDIATELY by a vote of no confidence in Prime Minister Tsipras and the entire Government.

They should now hold a referendum on seeing if the Greek people want to keep their Government.

originally posted by: Rocker2013

It's an impossible situation, but borrowing more to stave off the inevitable collapse is not going to help anyone.

They need to shoot down this agreement and suffer the short term consequences, agreeing to it is just sticking a band aid on an Axe wound.

Exactly. That's also how I see it. Well said.

EU central economy planing has destroyed Greek manufacturing and agricultural sector. What did they expect. EU was a failed state from get go. Word out there, US of A has decided it would be easier to manipulate Europe as a whole rather than deal with individual independent entities for global dominance task.

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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: imod02

The current situation was brought about by Goldman Sachs and corrupt prior Greek governments,believe it or not Greeks actually work longer than most of their European counterparts,now people and companies both go bankrupt and unsecured creditors get nothing with nations its a different story however,the EU counterfeiters set all this up for nations to fail and to get real physical assets in return for money created out of thin air.Democracy and freedom is dying in Europe as the bankers take full control whats coming is probably what the Christians predict.

Just remember in 1953 Germany was forgiven its debt which involved currencies backed by gold and real physical holdings it has no high moral ground to stand on.

Im with you on this one, the Greeks are getting screwed but they pulled there own pants down and and bent over, they never payed taxes, took the good life without looking what was happing and what was to come, I just said what the European people feel

a reply to: imod02

"..I just said what the European people feel.."?

You must be from Estonia))))) european..

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Am I the only one who doesn't give a # about Greece and if they're in Europe? Sick of hearing about it in the news.

originally posted by: Sharted
Am I the only one who doesn't give a # about Greece and if they're in Europe? Sick of hearing about it in the news.

Maybe that's just because you don't understand the importance of the issue or the consequences this will have on other countries?

And don't think the US or UK are immune from those consequences either. If Greece leaves the Euro it could cause a major problem in the markets, and cause other European nations to start to distance themselves from the Union.

Lets also not forget the meeting the Greek PM had with Putin less than a month ago. If Greece finds itself in dire need of financial help and Russia is the only one willing to lend to it, there will be a trade-off, and that will impact all of Europe, and the US, along with NATO.

So 224 out of 300 vote to accept the austerity package the people rejected Democracy dies in the country it was invented

a reply to: Rocker2013

I refuse to believe that one country's poor economy will have much of an impact on the global economy. China's economy is far superior and that's gone down the pooper, yet nothing much has changed. Economics is nowhere near an exact science and the reality is that people will still need services regardless of how well the economy is doing.