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originally posted by: vor78
originally posted by: NavyDoc
But that's incorrect. Mexico and Venezuela have some of the strictest gun control laws in the western hemisphere and some of the largest most brutal crimes.
The Swiss and the Czech Republic have almost USA levels of gun laws and ownership and crime much less than that of the UK.
You don't even have your facts straight.
Canadian gun laws aren't particularly strict, either, and most of what's available in the US is also available there. Hell, I didn't realize this until a few weeks ago, but apparently they don't even restrict magazine capacity on rimfire rifles; you can buy a 110 round drum magazine for your 10/22 right off the Cabelas Canada website. They've also got a fair number of guns and gun owners, and most estimates put the number of privately held firearms around 10 million. And yet, the Canadian homicide rate usually runs about 1.5 per 100,000.
And just to add something, there's really no reason to compare the US to other societies. The simple fact is, not all areas of the US are created equally when it comes to homicides. Most of them are occurring in the urban centers, which make up only a very small portion of the geographic area of the country. The vast majority of the country has a homicide rate that's not too far off that of Western Europe. Its that the urban centers are skewing the overall numbers sharply upward.
Childers Palace Fire - In June 2000, drifter and con-artist Robert Long started a fire at the Childers Palace backpackers hostel that killed 15 people.
Sef Gonzales - On July 10, 2001, Sef Gonzales bludgeoned to death his sister, mother and father with a baseball bat.
Monash University shooting - In October 2002, Huan Yun Xiang, a student, shot his classmates and teacher, killing two and injuring five.
Churchill Fire - 10 confirmed deaths due to a deliberately lit fire. The fire was lit on 7 February 2009.[5]
Lin family murders - On July 2009, Lian Bin "Robert" Xie killed his sister, her husband and three members of their family (5 persons from the Lin family) with a hammer. The faces of the victims were so disfigured that forensics had to be used to identify them. The motivation for the family massacre were partly because Lin had criticised Xie for not having a job.
2011 Hectorville siege - A mass shooting that took place on Friday, April 29, 2011, in Hectorville, South Australia. It began after a 39-year-old male, Donato Anthony Corbo, went on a shooting rampage, killing three people and wounding a child and two police officers, before being arrested by Special Operations police after an eight-hour siege.[6]
Quakers Hill Nursing Home Fire - 10 confirmed and as many as 21 people may have died as a result of a deliberately lit fire in a Quakers Hill nursing home. The fire was lit early on 18 November 2011.[7]
Cairns stabbings - A woman stabbed 8 children to death on Friday, 2014, December 19, 2014, 7 of them were her own.[8]
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Agit8dChop
Yes...the mass murderers in Australia resorted to burning, beating or stabbing their victims to death instead of shooting....seems criminals can still get guns too.....ban fire NOW in Australia!
originally posted by: babybunnies
It's simple logic - less guns = less gun violence.
In the 1980's, Margaret Thatcher had a complete gun recall in the UK after a school shooting.
There's not been one since.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: peter vlar
So basically what you are saying is you have no faith in the police for protection,the society you live in is scary and you feel the need to be armed to the teeth for your own safety...am i even close ?
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
And you will find police in the western world do not protect their citizens,that is a thing of the past...police have been corporatised,if you look through my threads you will see one that basically states that police are nothing more than revenue collectors and like you say investigators.......
And quite frankly i am glad i do not understand as i would hate to live somewhere i needed to be armed so i can feel secure at home or when i am out
It seems to be going pretty good, Illinois has over double the population density of Texas yet a lower rate of gun murders per 100,000. Obviously its because they have a lower rate of gun ownership.
originally posted by: M5xaz
It seems to be going pretty good, Illinois has over double the population density of Texas yet a lower rate of gun murders per 100,000. Obviously its because they have a lower rate of gun ownership.
Do you even understand that table ? It states that the murder rate in Illinois is about the same as Texas despite the fact that Texas has 50% MORE guns
Wyoming's got 60% gun ownership, the highest in the US, but among the lowest murder rates in the US
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: vor78
I remember one time some brainless idiot (who was licensed) hooked my brother up with over 100 rounds for my granddads .22 rifle. Like seriously... for over 40 minutes straight, well I was just peacefully trying to watch tv, my little brother was out there just going BANG, BANG f#ing BANG!!!! Who the f# knows what that little moron was shooting at?