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originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: NavyDoc
Yeah, those dirty banks forced those politicians to borrow more than they took in to buy stuff to get votes from people who didn't want to pay for anything.
Don't borrow more than you can afford to pay back--how hard is that?
The people of Greece had little to do with these decisions to borrow intractable amounts. These decisions are made by politicians lining their own pockets. The case is very solid and very easy to make, that lending to insolvent parties is 100% the liability of the lender.
These gross simplifications and false moral narratives are corporatist PR. Pablum for Faux News viewers.
I believe Greece will lead the west into reform of it's broken democratic system and broken money system. It will be painful. It should be a lesson to American dupes and hypocrites --but it won't be.
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: grandmakdw
Can anyone honestly figure a way not to go into austerity at this point?
You could try learning math. Even if the US cut it's budget to 50% of current revenue (this means across the board budget cuts of 75%) it would require more than 40 years to repay the gross national debt. With unfunded liabilities, it turns surreal.
False moral narratives programmed into your brain by profit machines must be removed. Specifically, financial profiteers are making slaves of us all and the shackles are not even locked! Laughable, really.
originally posted by: MOMof3
So, we have austerity or........what? The elephant in the room and the "what" is to get more taxes. Or the "what" could be, Go Greek. Ignore it. That is my choice. The US will turn out great either way. But austerity, not the solution.
originally posted by: Gothmog
And as far as destroying ungoons. Anyone on here know what a union is and how it functions ? I mean really know....
originally posted by: Willtell
I kid you not THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Mr. Austerity America, Scott Walker, the Koch puppet who destroyed unions and was super Mr. Austerity in Wisconsin, has declared his candidacy today the day they destroyed Greece with austerity II!www.huffingtonpost.com...
Walker was likely commanded to wait for this very moment.
This austerity freak is likely to be the president if Bush or Hillary falters
And he will be like Dracula in office for the American people and will lead the charge for American austerity like you’ve never seen.
This GOP puppet of the Koch brothers is Americas worst nightmare.
Why The Koch Brothers Want Scott Walker To Be President
The billionaire Koch brothers indicated during an event on Monday that they will likely support Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) to be the Republican presidential nominee. According to two New York Times sources who attended the New York State Republican Party fundraiser, David Koch told the crowd that Walker should be the Republican nominee.
Walker has enjoyed the Kochs’ enthusiastic support for much of his political career. Koch Industries was one of the largest contributors to Walker’s first gubernatorial campaign, giving him $43,000, his largest out-of-state contribution. And Walker’s 2014 reelection campaign was one of the top recipients of Koch Industries cash. Tim Phillips, president of Koch-backed Americans for Prosperity, has also heaped praise on Walker. “The difference Scott Walker has made with his policy achievements is as transformative as any governor anywhere in a generation,” Phillips said in an interview.
originally posted by: rollanotherone
originally posted by: Gothmog
And as far as destroying ungoons. Anyone on here know what a union is and how it functions ? I mean really know....
Great question. I just recently joined the USPS Union and all I can see them doing is keeping people who should be terminated, employed. It seems they protect jobs, for either great employees, or those that just barely cut the mustard. People above me on the seniority list skate by knowing their job is secure, while my work ethic has always been to work harder than the guys above you in order to move up the chain. Am I correct in this view? I can see the good they provide, and know that my view comes from the bad I've seen.
originally posted by: ISawItFirst
originally posted by: Willtell
I kid you not THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Mr. Austerity America, Scott Walker, the Koch puppet who destroyed unions and was super Mr. Austerity in Wisconsin, has declared his candidacy today the day they destroyed Greece with austerity II!www.huffingtonpost.com...
Walker was likely commanded to wait for this very moment.
This austerity freak is likely to be the president if Bush or Hillary falters
And he will be like Dracula in office for the American people and will lead the charge for American austerity like you’ve never seen.
This GOP puppet of the Koch brothers is Americas worst nightmare.
Why The Koch Brothers Want Scott Walker To Be President
The billionaire Koch brothers indicated during an event on Monday that they will likely support Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) to be the Republican presidential nominee. According to two New York Times sources who attended the New York State Republican Party fundraiser, David Koch told the crowd that Walker should be the Republican nominee.
Walker has enjoyed the Kochs’ enthusiastic support for much of his political career. Koch Industries was one of the largest contributors to Walker’s first gubernatorial campaign, giving him $43,000, his largest out-of-state contribution. And Walker’s 2014 reelection campaign was one of the top recipients of Koch Industries cash. Tim Phillips, president of Koch-backed Americans for Prosperity, has also heaped praise on Walker. “The difference Scott Walker has made with his policy achievements is as transformative as any governor anywhere in a generation,” Phillips said in an interview.
I can only assume by this OP that your paycheck comes out of mine. And your scared. As you should be.
originally posted by: ISawItFirst
I can only assume by this OP that your paycheck comes out of mine. And your scared. As you should be.
originally posted by: Willtell
I kid you not THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Mr. Austerity America, Scott Walker, the Koch puppet who destroyed unions and was super Mr. Austerity in Wisconsin, has declared his candidacy today the day they destroyed Greece with austerity II!www.huffingtonpost.com...
Walker was likely commanded to wait for this very moment.
This austerity freak is likely to be the president if Bush or Hillary falters
And he will be like Dracula in office for the American people and will lead the charge for American austerity like you’ve never seen.
This GOP puppet of the Koch brothers is Americas worst nightmare.
Why The Koch Brothers Want Scott Walker To Be President
The billionaire Koch brothers indicated during an event on Monday that they will likely support Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) to be the Republican presidential nominee. According to two New York Times sources who attended the New York State Republican Party fundraiser, David Koch told the crowd that Walker should be the Republican nominee.
Walker has enjoyed the Kochs’ enthusiastic support for much of his political career. Koch Industries was one of the largest contributors to Walker’s first gubernatorial campaign, giving him $43,000, his largest out-of-state contribution. And Walker’s 2014 reelection campaign was one of the top recipients of Koch Industries cash. Tim Phillips, president of Koch-backed Americans for Prosperity, has also heaped praise on Walker. “The difference Scott Walker has made with his policy achievements is as transformative as any governor anywhere in a generation,” Phillips said in an interview.
originally posted by: grandmakdw
originally posted by: NavyDoc
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
originally posted by: vonclod
Austerity did not destroy Greece..they already destroyed themselves didn't they?
The banks destroyed them and are continuing to do so, with a lot of help from other E.U countries and the IMF.
Yeah, those dirty banks forced those politicians to borrow more than they took in to buy stuff to get votes from people who didn't want to pay for anything.
Don't borrow more than you can afford to pay back--how hard is that?
You are correct.
Austerity will come to the US whether we like it or not.
Just as it is coming to Greece whether they like it or not.
The US government currently owes $58,000 for every man, woman, and child in America in debt
www.bloomberg.com... ies
People need to ask themselves, is your family able to pay their fair share?
If the US government took 100% of all the 1%er's money, the government would still be in debt
1%ers have nearly 2 trillion dollars total
The US debt is 18+ trillion dollars
www.zerohedge.com...
www.matchdoctor.com...
Can anyone honestly figure a way not to go into austerity at this point?
And how on earth can Unions get anyone out of this mess, that's a joke.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
originally posted by: ISawItFirst
originally posted by: Willtell
I kid you not THIS IS NOT A COINCIDENCE
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Mr. Austerity America, Scott Walker, the Koch puppet who destroyed unions and was super Mr. Austerity in Wisconsin, has declared his candidacy today the day they destroyed Greece with austerity II!www.huffingtonpost.com...
Walker was likely commanded to wait for this very moment.
This austerity freak is likely to be the president if Bush or Hillary falters
And he will be like Dracula in office for the American people and will lead the charge for American austerity like you’ve never seen.
This GOP puppet of the Koch brothers is Americas worst nightmare.
Why The Koch Brothers Want Scott Walker To Be President
The billionaire Koch brothers indicated during an event on Monday that they will likely support Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) to be the Republican presidential nominee. According to two New York Times sources who attended the New York State Republican Party fundraiser, David Koch told the crowd that Walker should be the Republican nominee.
Walker has enjoyed the Kochs’ enthusiastic support for much of his political career. Koch Industries was one of the largest contributors to Walker’s first gubernatorial campaign, giving him $43,000, his largest out-of-state contribution. And Walker’s 2014 reelection campaign was one of the top recipients of Koch Industries cash. Tim Phillips, president of Koch-backed Americans for Prosperity, has also heaped praise on Walker. “The difference Scott Walker has made with his policy achievements is as transformative as any governor anywhere in a generation,” Phillips said in an interview.
I can only assume by this OP that your paycheck comes out of mine. And your scared. As you should be.
Or maybe he/she has a social conscience?
Let's hope it doesn't come to people paying less tax in favour of those in poverty dying of starvation. No, I am sure it would never come to that.