The Birth of a Spray Plane

Oil Spill Response Ltd is an industry owned co-operative that exists to respond rapidly and deal with oil spills around the world, that has been around for 25 years.

www.oilspillresponse.com...

In response to a requirement they had for a rapid response aircraft with decent capacity a pair of Boeing 727's were acquired by a uk firm called T-2 Aviation, who operate them on behalf of OSRL.

The aircraft concerned were both ex Fed-Ex freighters, N217FE and N207FE. The former was re-registered G-OSRA, the latter becoming G-OSRB.

Their introduction wasn't without problems, mainly around gaining certification for the dispersant spray mechanism which is described as the first of its kind.

Once in service the B727 platform will offer members a much enhanced dispersant spray capability, but as the first system of its kind, the CAA have been unable to meet their own metrics for the turn-round of certification documentation.

April 2014 Brief

Following conversion the aircraft were flown into Air Livery Ltd at Manchester Airport, where I was able to photograph the arrival of the second aircraft G-OSRB, still showing its Fed Ex ancestry.

After it had spent about a week in the Hangar I managed to be at Doncaster for the arrival of OSRB in her new livery, where she joined her stablemate OSRA, who'd arrived a few weeks before.

So there is a genuine spray plane, converted from an airliner and operated from a base just a few miles down the road from me.
I was only one of many photographers there to capture her on both occasions, as airports are swamped with photographers every day.

My closing thought when bringing this is, if there really are chemtrails planes spraying the planet with chemtrails on a daily basis, where are all the pictures taken by geeks like me, who take pride in knowing the reg and history of every plane we picture?

Could it be there simply aren't any?

Time to employ common sense.

Nice pictures of planes on the ground. Now it's up to you to keep an eye on them!

a reply to: smurfy

What, you think I don't? I didn't get 30,000+ photographs without doing my fair share of looking up!

I see some nozzles in that last pic!

originally posted by: waynos

My closing thought when bringing this is, if there really are chemtrails planes spraying the planet with chemtrails on a daily basis, where are all the pictures taken by geeks like me, who take pride in knowing the reg and history of every plane we picture?

Could it be there simply aren't any?

Time to employ common sense.

What about the aistrips that they dont let you near?
What about nozzles that pop out when someone on board presses a button?
Not being able to see then has nothing to do with common sense!

originally posted by: VoidHawk

What about the aistrips that they dont let you near?

What ones are those that you can't photograph from the outside wit ha zoom lens?

What about nozzles that pop out when someone on board presses a button?

Do they exist?

Not being able to see then has nothing to do with common sense!

Yeah...it does!

a reply to: VoidHawk
What about planes too small and too high to see? Possibly spraying but you wouldn't even see it? You think that might be possible one day? How would people even know while they're busy focusing on their fear of contrails?

then there are the invisible ones. Damn hard to see.
I don't know if the airstrips are invisible too, but since the planes are, it's not too much of a stretch to say they are.

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul

originally posted by: VoidHawk

What about the aistrips that they dont let you near?

What ones are those that you can't photograph from the outside wit ha zoom lens?

What about nozzles that pop out when someone on board presses a button?

Do they exist?

Not being able to see then has nothing to do with common sense!

Yeah...it does!

Ha! Didn't think it would take long for YOU to reply
Aloysius the Gaul said "What ones are those that you can't photograph from the outside wit ha zoom lens?"
Go to a military airstrip and hang about outside with a camera and see how long it takes for you to be removed!


Aloysius the Gaul said "Do nozzles exist?"
I dont know, but it's completely possible therefore cannot be ruled out.

Aloysius the Gaul said "Yeah...it does!" in reply to me saying "Not being able to see then has nothing to do with common sense!"
Nope! I cant see where they landed on the moon, so are you finally admitting that the moon landing might be bs?

As I've said before, I dont know if chemtrails are real or not, I sit on the fence, but when a denier posts bs as evidence I feel it should be pointed out, just like you do when you see bs being used as evidence for their existence.

a reply to: VoidHawk

You should edit your last post so it makes sense

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
a reply to: VoidHawk

You should edit your last post so it makes sense

Done. I left your bad grammer intact

a reply to: VoidHawk

you wrote:

Ha! Didn't think it would take long for YOU to reply
Aloysius the Gaul said "What ones are those that you can't photograph from the outside wit ha zoom lens?"
Go to a military airstrip and hang about outside with a camera and see how long it takes for you to be removed!

Depends where you are - I've done it for hours in hte UK and USA and elsewhere. I wouldn't try it in Russia tho....but then I could always choost o fit a 10" telescope to a camera and take recognizable shots from 5-6 miles or more and almost certainly get away with it like this guy.

So ...er..what was your point??

Aloysius the Gaul said "Yeah...it does!" in reply to me saying "Not being able to see then has nothing to do with common sense!"
Nope! I cant see where they landed on the moon, so are you finally admitting that the moon landing might be bs?

Could you please tell me how your thinking works on this - because I find it nonsensical.

Thanks.

originally posted by: VoidHawk
Go to a military airstrip and hang about outside with a camera and see how long it takes for you to be removed!

I live a few miles away from Kirtland AFB, and have taken photos from nearby numerous times, without anybody ever bothering me.

a reply to: VoidHawk

I've spent the last two days hanging out around Lockheed Martin Skunkworks, and Northrop Grumman, arguably one of the most secure areas around, including taking pictures directly in front of a sign that said "Photography Prohibited", and you know what? The ONLY time security came anywhere near us, he was on the airfield side of the fence, while we were on the public side. He didn't even slow down after seeing us with tripod set up with camera sitting on it.

a reply to: waynos

That's a mean looking paint job. If I was an oil spill I'd be scared.

originally posted by: VoidHawk

originally posted by: waynos

My closing thought when bringing this is, if there really are chemtrails planes spraying the planet with chemtrails on a daily basis, where are all the pictures taken by geeks like me, who take pride in knowing the reg and history of every plane we picture?

Could it be there simply aren't any?

Time to employ common sense.

What about the aistrips that they dont let you near?
What about nozzles that pop out when someone on board presses a button?
Not being able to see then has nothing to do with common sense!

You have a viewpoint on taking photographs outside military bases that thousands of aviation photographers would find hilariously laughable. RAF Coningsby in Lincolnshire (RAF fighter station and temporary home to the RAF's AWACS and ELINT fleets) even has a huge mound, like the motte of an old castle, specifically created for photographers at the end of the runway. Does that make your head explode? Lol.

And nozzles that pop out at the touch of a button? Do you mean those "made up on the spot" fictional devices that nobody has ever seen, including every chemtrail believer? Yeah, what about them?

Thanks for calling my point BS, thereby underlining that you didn't know what it was. The common sense says that I am one amateur photographer, a drop in the ocean, if you'll pardon the pun, there are thousands of zoom lenses attached to DSLR's pointing at Airports, bases and up in the sky every minute of every day taking high resolution photographs (I almost forgot they are inside hangars as well as a number of the members of a group to which I belong are also airside airport workers.

And yet, after 20 plus years of daily chemtrail operations, the only photographs that exist are all easily explained quite factually, or have been misrepresented or doctored.

Hmmm, now, why would one need to do that?

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: waynos

That's a mean looking paint job. If I was an oil spill I'd be scared.

Yeah, it looks better than many an airline I've had the misfortune to photograph for

WRT me saying its no problem taking pictures even at secure bases. To back that up and show how close you can get without problems, here are some shots from a recent day at the Coningsby mound. The ground shots show proximity for themselves, while the Tornado and Sentry AEW.1 have just taken off;

Not anything to do with chemtrails by themselves, but merely shown as a response to the claim that was made earlier in the thread.