Cheop’s Pyramid : A theory to explain the internal architecture

Found this theory which made sence to me, so I though I'd share to get inputs here from 'Indiana Jones' hearted people.

In substance it tries explains the true fonction of the king's chamber, its unusual roof and the incompleted state of the Subterranean chamber, here made a simple receptacle. All of this contraption would be built around a water pressure system, intended to activate a secret opening mechanism camouflaged in the heart of this pyramid, eventually leading to a true hidden chamber which remained unexplored.


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originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
Found this theory which made sence to me, so I though I'd share to get inputs here from 'Indiana Jones' hearted people.

In substance it tries explains the true fonction of the king's chamber, its unusual roof and the incompleted state of the Subterranean chamber, here made a simple receptacle. All of this contraption would be built around a water pressure system, intended to activate a secret opening mechanism camouflaged in the heart of this pyramid, eventually leading to a true hidden chamber which remained unexplored.


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Its nonsense, anyone who claims that the Pyramids of Cheops wasn't a tomb is overlooking the fact that it has a sarcophagusgus, a burial chamber and is situated in a necropolis with a mortuary temple outside dedicated to the dead king

a reply to: Marduk

It doesn't state it's not a tomb, it offers another mecanism where the true chamber might be hidden. Make perfect sence to me to try to fool the tomb robbers / make it really hard to access to...

Did you read the text?

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
a reply to: Marduk

It doesn't state it's not a tomb, it offers another mecanism where the true chamber might be hidden. Make perfect sence to me to try to fool the tomb robbers / make it really hard to access to...

Did you read the text?

Don't be too hard on him. Anyone who has been on ATS for a while has seen a number of threads about this. Just do an ATS search for the words "pyramid pump" and you will see pages of threads about this.






But I must admit. The site you have linked has the best explanation and graphics for this theory I have seen so far. Some spectacular and easy to understand oblique views, renders, and side views.

Not bad. Worth a look. Not bad at all.

S&F

Mike Grouchy

There are a lot of problems with the idea presented in the OP's link...

First, if one assumes that the granite for the "ceilings" was quarried from Aswan (which I'm not sure of), then that is about 860km, not 960km, as stated. Second, the 'shafts' do not (and never did) open to the outside of the pyramid, which basically falsifies the entire idea. Third, even if the shafts were open to the exterior, the idea of pouring enough water down them to fill the King's chamber is simply ludicrous. Fourth, the 'V' cut in the grand gallery shows no indication of being cut that way, and every indication of being worn down, likely from ropes or something during the construction.

Interesting idea, but, much like the king's chamber, it doesn't hold water.

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
a reply to: Marduk

It doesn't state it's not a tomb, it offers another mecanism where the true chamber might be hidden. Make perfect sence to me to try to fool the tomb robbers / make it really hard to access to...

Did you read the text?

I started reading it and then saw this bold title halfway through the text
What if the King’s chamber was never destined to serve as tomb ?
Now thanks to your advice I have read the whole article, so my apologies to you.
but I still think its nonsense, the pyramid is a long way from being a watertight construction. The Egyptians knew what pitch was, but instead used mortar made from mud and clay. Which isn't waterproof at all
and again, this idea seems to be built on the claim that the people who know the most about pyramid construction all have it wrong...

Its worth noting here that the author "Philippe Lheureux" is a conspiracy theorist and not an Egyptian specialist. He wrote a book in 2003
"Moon Landings: Did NASA Lie?"
www.amazon.com...
Read the reviews

I like the completeness of the article, but I just don't buy it, sorry

a reply to: Marduk

Many thanks



Edit: his moon stuff says a lot on his credibility

originally posted by: admirethedistance

Interesting idea, but, much like the king's chamber, it doesn't hold water.

indeed

a reply to: mikegrouchy

I love egyptology but I'm no egyptologist

Hoping for a long shot from a researcher someday (fingers crossed). Would be really great to discover a hidden room. A real possibility: It's nearly 2.6 millions cube meters of rocks. Any hidden room with something to date, to decipher would be of tremendous value. What I liked from his theory is that it's easily proven/disproven with a sonar scan (no dommage to the structure) of the 'possible' vertical shaft from the Subterranean chamber. Now getting Zahi Hawass to actually do this wouldn't be easy to do, considering the amount of weird theories floating around...

Jeff

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
a reply to: mikegrouchy

Now getting Zahi Hawass to actually do this wouldn't be easy to do, considering the amount of weird theories floating around...

Jeff

It would be very difficult as he no longer works for the Egyptian antiquities commission

In looking at the configurations that they propose in the article, it reminded me of the "Money Pit" of Oak Island.

originally posted by: admirethedistance
There are a lot of problems with the idea presented in the OP's link...

First, if one assumes that the granite for the "ceilings" was quarried from Aswan (which I'm not sure of), then that is about 860km, not 960km, as stated.

Well, that could just be a typo.

Second, the 'shafts' do not (and never did) open to the outside of the pyramid, which basically falsifies the entire idea.

They did at some point during construction...maybe they were meant to be used once and then finished after the one-time use. Just a thought that negates this criticism.

Third, even if the shafts were open to the exterior, the idea of pouring enough water down them to fill the King's chamber is simply ludicrous.

This was going through my head the entire time reading the article, not to mention that I assume the compressed air would be enough force to push the water back out of the shaft before lifting a bunch of limestone. This, I believe, is the nail in the sarcophagus.

Fourth, the 'V' cut in the grand gallery shows no indication of being cut that way, and every indication of being worn down, likely from ropes or something during the construction.

Meh...could have been cut, then worn after. If the claim is just that there are no tool markings, that's not a conclusive deduction by archaeologists.

Interesting idea, but, much like the king's chamber, it doesn't hold water.

I would tend to agree with this, but only because of the task of filling up the shaft and king's chamber with enough water would be utterly difficult, even with the world's largest bucket brigade.

a reply to: LoveSolMoonDeath

The theory is pretty cool, but does suffer from at least one problem that I can't get past (how the vast amount of water needed to fill the chamber and shaft would be introduced and then contained without the pressure pushing it back out and equalizing before lifting massive granite blocks).

I like the theory contained in this documentary much better, and it still allows for still-hidden chambers:

It just occurred to me, that this pyramid with hydro activated moving parts is actually the plot of the last Indiana Jones movie.

a reply to: SlapMonkey

The weight of the water column would push a stone like a switch. I provided a video in french but check from 0:50 to see what's the trick. BUT to bring enough water in is complicated. But is it too hard for the ones who actually built these monuments? I don't think so. It's also something that can't be done without everyone around noticing, something that takes time and man power, exactly the kind of safety I'd want against tomb robbers / war raids etc...

Sadly I can't access the video you provided from Canada, I'll figure a work around.





Edit: Chrome + Hola! did it

as has been said before, Rudolph Gantenbrink sent a small robot down the shafts of the GP. This is what he found
www.google.co.uk...=zs2HP6V gM3fe5M%3A

A solid unbreachable door



so that's game over for this thread

of all the pyramidiot claims - " water pump " is by far the daftest

reasons inclused [ but are not limited to ] in no particular order

an utter lack of any water tight chanels in the pyramid

an utter lack of any airtight spaces in the pyramid

zero evidence of any water flow in any area of the pyramid

an utter absence of a water source at the giza plateau [ of sufficient quanity to be pumped ]

zeo evidence of external infrastructure to use claimed ` pumped water `

and they wonder why no one takes thier claims seriously ????

originally posted by: Marduk
as has been said before, Rudolph Gantenbrink sent a small robot down the shafts of the GP. This is what he found
www.google.co.uk...=zs2HP6V gM3fe5M%3A

A solid unbreachable door



so that's game over for this thread

I'm really, REALLY venturing into the what-if realm here, but what if the entire hydraulic mechanism was used during the construction in order to open the claimed burial chamber, then sealed off (the shaft) upon finishing the structure.

I mean, even if they were just "vent shafts," blocking them off is just as illogical for the same reason--nothing can get in (air, water, or otherwise).

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
of all the pyramidiot claims - " water pump " is by far the daftest

reasons inclused [ but are not limited to ] in no particular order

an utter lack of any water tight chanels in the pyramid

an utter lack of any airtight spaces in the pyramid

zero evidence of any water flow in any area of the pyramid

an utter absence of a water source at the giza plateau [ of sufficient quanity to be pumped ]

zeo evidence of external infrastructure to use claimed ` pumped water `

On the other hand, the above is solid evidence that Ape's thumbs are too big for him to be posting from his phone.

Harte

Very interesting idea. Be wonderful to find the true chambers if they exist elsewhere but then again perhaps they are better left where they are.