Alabama Senate Approves Bill to Abolish Marriage Licensing

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: [post=19510781]

She simply told me to call the Gov. office in AL,
she refused to supply even the smallest shred
of proof of her assertion that the bill
stops gay marriage.
It does not.

I provided full links to the actual bill requiring that the parties entering into the contract be "legally authorized to be married" as well as a link to the Alabama State Constitution explicitly saying that same-sex marriages were not authorized....and any contract that "replicates marriage".

If you still don't get it...see here..

This does not open up marriage for same-sex couples. According to the legislation
Read more at freedomoutpost.com...

or here

Attorney Jake Watson explained to WHNT 19 News:
“A statement that the parties are legally authorized to be married, that’s going to be the catch. What is legally authorized to be married? Under the State of Alabama Law, that would not include same-sex marriage,” he said.
www.dallasvoice.com...

or here

Alabama finds new way to ban gay marriage
Since Alabama law does not permit same-sex marriages, gay couples couldn't file a contract saying they are legally allowed to marry.
www.dailykos.com...

or here

hotair.com...

Let me know if you need more ...

originally posted by: Kapriti
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

One thing is that they need to take out 'clergy member' as one to act as witness of the contract. Leave the clergy and religion out of it altogether at the level of government.

13 This bill would also authorize the judge of
14 probate to collect a fee for recording the contract
15 of marriage. This bill would provide that the fee
16 currently collected by the judge of probate and
17 paid to the district attorney upon issuance would
18 be paid when the marriage contract is presented for
19 recording.
20 This bill would provide for an additional
21 fee to be paid to the General Fund.

g) A recording fee of twenty-five dollars ($25)
18 pursuant to Section 12-19-90, Code of Alabama 1975, an
19 additional fee of thirty dollars ($30) pursuant to Section
20 30-6-11, Code of Alabama 1975, and an additional fee of twenty
21 dollars ($20) pursuant to Section 3 shall be paid to the judge
22 of probate upon filing of a marriage contract pursuant to this
23 act.

"(3) Grant of letters of guardianship or
2 conservatorship, three certified copies ..... 20.00
3 "(4) Partial or final settlement of guardianship or
4 conservatorship ..... 15.00

"(5) Each additional certified copy of letters
6 testamentary, letters of administration, or letters of
7 guardianship or conservatorship ..... 3.00

"(6) Proceedings in filing and granting petition of
9 adoption, including one certified copy of decree for
10 petitioner, one certified copy for the Department of Human
11 Resources, and one copy to the State Bureau of Vital
12 Statistics. (Fee shall apply to each child adopted) .....75.00

8) Proceedings in change of name ..... 15.00

"(5) Witnesses certificate ..... 3.00
2 "(6) Order of publication ..... 3.00
3 "(7) Posting order of publication, each ..... 3.00
4 "(8) Notice by mail to creditor and heirs, each
5 ..... 3.00
6 "(9) Each notice not otherwise provided for .....
7 3.00
8 "(10) Issuing commission to take testimony .....
9 10.00
10 "(11) Entering returns of sheriff, printer, or
11 commissioner, each ..... 3.00
12 "(12) Appointment of guardian ad litem, special
13 attorney, or administrator ad litem ..... 5.00
14 "(13) Approving bonds ..... 10.00
15 "(14) Presiding in noncontested cause or examining
16 papers, pleadings, taking testimony, etc. ..... 10.00
17 "(15) Presiding in contested cause, per day .....
18 25.00
19 "(16) Examining vouchers, each ..... 1.00
20 "(17) Examining and entering decree or other order
21 ..... 3.00
22 "(18) Drafting decree ..... 10.00
23 "(19) Each certificate with seal 3.00
24 "(20) Each certificate without seal ..... 3.00
25 "(21) Filing and docketing each claim ..... 3.00

IT GOES ON AND ON...I cant even tell what this has to do with marriage, but it costs 400?

Discharging his or her duties in relation
11 to public roads, on proof to the county commission that he or
12 she had discharged such duties, annually, to be paid out of
13 the county treasury or, in the discretion of the county
14 commission, to be paid out of the county gasoline tax fund,
15 not exceeding ..... 400.00

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting
Well this is a sorry state of affairs! I was so optimistic at first read, but the more I read......... too bad -- sneaking in the back door. At least it's been defeated.

originally posted by: J.B. Aloha
a reply to: Megatronus

What opponents to 'gay marriage'? All I've seen here are those who support equality in one's liberty of contract; and staunchly support getting government out of the marriage 'license' [privelidge] business for everyone.

... If this proves not to serve those ends, as appears to be shown in some capacity, it is a travesty, and should be called the spade it is.