'The Far Right Racists Being Seen As Future Anti-Government Domestic Terrorists'

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Far-Right wing racist. Racism lol is a joke. The very idea of racism is a failure in accurately explaining a survival trait past down for thousands of years. People in tribes feared people who didn't belong to their tribe and they singled out people by what ever means necessary, most of the time it was based off what they could see or hear that differentiated them from someone's tribe. This went on for thousands of years and is ingrained into people, it's biological like the fight or flight response. People don't want to be conquered by someone who doesn't believe in what they believe in and doesn't looks like they look or doesn't sound like they sound or think like they think.

People don't want to be assimilated into a culture and lose their traditions and heritage you can see this trend to this very day its called multiculturalism however multiculturalism isn't considered an active form of racism because its nonviolent however the ideology to separate from the culture based off the idea of preserving ones culture and genetic traits while living in a foreign land should be considered racist unless your specific culture and genetic traits are at risk of being eradicated.

In simple terms if your Chinese and Buddhist and move to america I'm sure its safe to say your families assimilation into america isn't going to affect there being people with Chinese traits or culture in the future. therefor your reasoning for doing so is based purely on a racist belief your culture and people are superior. This is according to the people who believe if white people did it that would be racist.

However there is a very real push to eradicate white christian heritage and culture through forced assimilation which you can see happening in Europe right now! Massive waves of middle easterners flooded into European countries however with white Europeans the idea of creating your own businesses that aims to serve only your white christian European customers and date only within white European christian circles or to only cater to people who speak white European languages in order to preserve their ethic and cultural and biological traits would be considered racist.

Even to bring this topic up is considered racist which doesn't make sense because the people who are actively engaging in multiculturalism to preserve their "heritage, traits, and culture" are the ones who scream racism the loudest. They are the ones who lobby for European governments to change their laws to suit their religious and cultural beliefs and they often hail from countries where they know their government is actively protecting their "heritage, traits, and culture" against assimilation of other cultures, religions or biological traits which are foreign to them.

what does this essay have to due with the topic of right wing racist terrorist?
Its simple the right wing is mostly comprised of white Christians and they are normally categorized as racist by the media. Where do these right wing racist live? In a multicultural country that treats them the same way as white Europeans in Europe except the white christian isn't protected under the " multicultural" understanding everybody else is just like white Europeans, no they are racist if they engage in that type of behavior.

The article isn't demonizing terrorist its demonizing white conservatives and paints a picture that white males are possible terrorist if they hold far right conservative views. Its a typical mind game played by the liberal media look at the imagery in the article of KKK and the writing about Nazi swastikas. It purpose is to scare the black and jewish voters back into the democratic party voting fold after this horrible administrations reign is over. It third objective is to guilt white males or scare them into voting different so they are not labeled as racist and to reinforce the idea of the scapegoat "white male oppressor" as an evil waiting on the horizon. Pathetic Zionist garbage

a reply to: introvert

You made some very offensive underlying premises. I don't have principled objections to things. I just have buried hate.

Way to go!

a reply to: ketsuko

The far right extreme propaganda has a very deep psychological effect on those that are exposed to it continually, and it has created a section within our society that is obsessed with firearms, minorities, immigrants, socialists, liberals/progressives and a very unhealthy hatred for Obama. Many of them are convinced that there is a grand conspiracy against them. One that wants to disarm them, enslave them in socialism and force them to give up their faiths in order to become enveloped in to a new socialist world order.

The above quote is from my first post. Can you see how your response has proven that statement to be true. You took what I said as an indication that I was a threat that wanted to enslave, or round up your family, and force you to think and believe as I do.

Thank you so much for posting your comment. I believe you have illustrated the type of thinking that is not only rooted in propaganda, but in another reality.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

You made some very offensive underlying premises. I don't have principled objections to things. I just have buried hate.

Way to go!

My words are straight forward and direct. There are no underlying premises. This is not about agreeing with ideology or principles. It's about an extreme end.

Like I said, you may not fall in to the group I speak of. If you don't why do you take such great offense?

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I agree that the biggest domestic terror threat comes from far right racist anti-government individuals and groups... however, I can't defend a witch hunt. I don't agree with anything these vile sacks of human waste stand for but ironically, flushing them out, criminalizing their speech, their ability to freely associate and assemble... is also a threat to me, to all of us really but I can specify why it's a threat to me.

Ideologically, I'm on the far, far left. I'm an anarchist and a socialist. My kind was quite effectively wiped off the American map in the 1950's and 1960's. It didn't matter what exact ideology (we have a lot of flavors) my predecessors were... they all got labeled traitors and soviets and all groups got infiltrated by the FBI, dissent was sown, leaders disappeared, disinformation campaigns launched, civil disobedience punished very harshly. Yet the true extremists were left alone to progress, plan and carry out deadly attacks. However none of that comes close to what our government did to the Black Panthers and other Civil Rights leaders through COINTELPRO. You should read up on that.

The result? Look at some of the replies in this thread pointing out left wing extremism as a defense. My kind are demons, if I say that I'm a socialist, an anarchist... to many people, to the US government I may as well be saying that I'm a Weathermen, that I advocate bombings... when I actually am very strongly against using violence or even property damage to make a point.

I am also anti-government, just in a much different way than the extremists (left or right). I believe in a gradual process of lessening the need for government rather than insurrection, sedition or secession. But my government doesn't care that I am peaceful, if somehow the spotlight ever fell on me, my peacefulness wouldn't matter because my words are the threat to the government.

I say these things to you because of statements you've made in other threads, your advocacy of rounding up the racists, criminalizing their speech. In this, you force me to defend them because doing so is an act of self defense... my speech would also be threatened, perhaps even my freedom because they are anti-government and so am I.

You and I have disgust at racism in common, I would love to stand with you (even if only digitally). I can see that your stance comes from a place of love, but I can't stand with you if, despite your intentions being good, you are a threat to me.

a reply to: ketsuko

This is a pushback to things like TPP and supreme Court rulings.

If you disagree with government encroachment, you are obviously a racist. The same thing was attempted when ACA (Obamacare) was enacted.

What this thread perfectly illustrates is social engineering.

Or as I have often coined it; the "Fluffy Kitten" defense.

If you are against what they are trying to dictate, then you obviously hate fluffy kittens.

We see this when reasoned, logical, rational debate can no longer be used to defend their positions.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: ketsuko

The far right extreme propaganda has a very deep psychological effect on those that are exposed to it continually, and it has created a section within our society that is obsessed with firearms, minorities, immigrants, socialists, liberals/progressives and a very unhealthy hatred for Obama. Many of them are convinced that there is a grand conspiracy against them. One that wants to disarm them, enslave them in socialism and force them to give up their faiths in order to become enveloped in to a new socialist world order.

The above quote is from my first post. Can you see how your response have proven that statement to be true. You took what I said as an indication that I was a threat that wanted to enslave, or round up your family, and force you to think and believe as I do.

Thank you so much for posting your comment. I believe you have illustrated the type of thinking that is not only rooted in propaganda, but in another reality.

I don't have time to go back through your mountains of assumptions.

But you list immigrants, inner city issues, and other things as proof that all people of dissenting ideology from your own harbor hidden hatred they aren't aware of.

The effect is that you don't actually feel you need to engage because we are already operating from a position of irrationality. You absolve yourself therefore of needing to actually examine our arguments because they cannot be valid motivated as you tell yourself they are by hidden hatred. You tell yourself that you are morally high-minded about all this by believing that we are just deluded and don't realize how brainwashed we actually are. That also allows you to feel superior and smug that you alone have spotted this and resisted. You are the special flower.

You have eaten your own premise, by self balkanaizing.

a reply to: beezzer

This is a pushback to things like TPP and supreme Court rulings.

It has nothing to do with such things and to say so indicates that the premise may have gone over your head. This is about an extreme end of the right wing that has the potential to become ever more violent as they continue believe they are being threatened by forces around them.

Your post fails to recognize that this goes beyond simple politics.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: beezzer

This is a pushback to things like TPP and supreme Court rulings.

It has nothing to do with such things and to say so indicates that the premise may have gone over your head. This is about an extreme end of the right wing that has the potential to become ever more violent as they continue believe they are being threatened by forces around them.

Your post fails to recognize that this goes beyond simple politics.

I disagree. I also refuse to conform to your and the OP's narrative as to what constitutes anti-government and racist ideologies.

I stand by my assertions. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, then perhaps I'm closer to the truth than you'd like to admit.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: beezzer

This is a pushback to things like TPP and supreme Court rulings.

It has nothing to do with such things and to say so indicates that the premise may have gone over your head. This is about an extreme end of the right wing that has the potential to become ever more violent as they continue believe they are being threatened by forces around them.

Your post fails to recognize that this goes beyond simple politics.

You are talking out of the left side of your face.This is all SPLC driven,they capitalize and make money off of racial division,so keep slurping up the SPLC leftist line and further divide us along racial lines,Good work!

a reply to: ketsuko

I don't have time to go back through your mountains of assumptions.

I believe what I have said is true and very easy to see. You may call it assumption, but I call it plain as day.

Funny though, you accuse me of making assumption, yet you reply with a post filled with assumptions. Let's start with the first one:

But you list immigrants, inner city issues, and other things as proof that all people of dissenting ideology from your own harbor hidden hatred they aren't aware of.

You assume to know what my ideology is. What is my ideology? What do these groups of people have to do with my political beliefs? Are the groups I listed not widely discussed and ridiculed by the far right? Of course they are. But in your mind by simply stating the obvious I must have some sort of ideological ax to grind. You assume to much.

The effect is that you don't actually feel you need to engage because we are already operating from a position of irrationality.

Am I not engaging? Did I not state that I talk publicly to many people about this issue? I don;t believe it is a position of irrationality. Quite the opposite. I believe these people have fully justified their beliefs to themselves.

You absolve yourself therefore of needing to actually examine our arguments because they cannot be valid motivated as you tell yourself they are by hidden hatred.

I'm confused, as this statement doesn't make sense. Anyway, I don't believe anything is hidden. It's quite obvious where the hatred is. It's origin is what is being debated.

You tell yourself that you are morally high-minded about all this by believing that we are just deluded and don't realize how brainwashed we actually are.

What does morality have to do with this? I am no more moral than anyone else, nor am I better than anyone else. Just because I pay attention to language/propaganda does not mean I think more of myself.

hat also allows you to feel superior and smug that you alone have spotted this and resisted. You are the special flower

Absurd. Others have been talking about this for years and I do not believe I am special because I have spotted something new.

You have eaten your own premise, by self balkanaizing.

Quite the contrary. Your own emotional posts filled with vast assumptions, while accusing me of making assumptions, has been the perfect illustration of what was being discussed. I stand by what I said and thank you for your participation.

You know , stuff like this offends me . Once people identify a group and put a label on that group , anyone that resembles that group is lumped into it. Take for instance race. There is only 1 race - the human race.Why does the government want to separate this country into different divisions ? Want to have some fun ? When a census worker comes to your home to fill out the census , when they ask what race say human. And stick by it. They cannot comprehend this at all.There is no check block for human . To watch their reactions is priceless. Then we lump people into 1000s (if not millions) of these "fake" groups . Why ? Why does everyone push "diversity" when we all should know what that means. It has its roots in the same meaning as "divide" . I once had to take a "diversity class" at work. I actually asked the question why is it diversity and not unity ? The sounds of crickets outside could be heard.
I guess I should open a thread on this in the rant section but this is exactly what I believe. We are all traveling in an infinite universe on a tiny ball of leftover rock and metal . Lets forget tagging other people with labels and concentrate on the here and now. We dont get a second chance at this.

a reply to: beezzer

I disagree. I also refuse to conform to your and the OP's narrative as to what constitutes anti-government and racist ideologies.

I stand by my assertions. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, then perhaps I'm closer to the truth than you'd like to admit.

I am not uncomfortable whatsoever. I never said anything about anti-government sentiment and even stated in my second post that the people I speak of do not necessarily derive from a racist ideology.

To have an open and honest discussion, one must read what has been said.

a reply to: introvert

Do you feel that an anti-government sentiment is healthy or unhealthy?

a reply to: Sunwolf

You are talking out of the left side of your face.This is all SPLC driven,they capitalize and make money off of racial division,so keep slurping up the SPLC leftist line and further divide us along racial lines,Good work!

I've said nothing about the SPLC and could care less what they say or believe. They are a useless organization and I find it disturbing at the vast amount of unwarranted assumptions many of you have to come to just to converse with me.

If you want to refute my claims, please do. But do not assume I have an agenda when it is quite obvious that you have not read what I posted earlier.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: introvert

Do you feel that an anti-government sentiment is healthy or unhealthy?

That's not a simple yes or no answer. If one believes that all government, regardless of it's actions or effectiveness, is bad. I think that's a misguided belief.

If one believes that this current government is out-of-control, is poorly ran and is very ineffective, I would say that is healthy and I would agree.

a reply to: Kali74

Best comment in the thread. I agree with every word you said.

First they came for the terroists... we let them restrict rights

Then they came for the racists...

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: introvert

Do you feel that an anti-government sentiment is healthy or unhealthy?

That's not a simple yes or no answer. If one believes that all government, regardless of it's actions or effectiveness, is bad. I think that's a misguided belief.

If one believes that this current government is out-of-control, is poorly ran and is very ineffective, I would say that is healthy and I would agree.

I'd only offer caution.

You might be branded a racist if you continue with posts like that.

more left vs right propaganda.

Perhaps we should try and focus on real issues instead of calling certain groups of people racist based on their ideology. Bait thread is bait.

Can we use a little common sense these days, instead of acting on emotion alone?

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Bravo you see the deflection away from the topic and that many cant address the elephant in the room which is racism and far right ideology of guns taking back the country and the false narrative of the white supremacy ideology.

But I don't think you understand that they don't see it as being a white supremacist ideology. They don't necessarily believe that their race is superior. They have been taught that these certain groups, inner city blacks, immigrants, socialists, and many others, are a threat to them and their way of life. So subconsciously they learn to hate these people because of that perceived threat they pose. Racism IS a factor that must be included, as there are many that hate certain groups because of their skin color and lack the testicular fortitude to admit it, but it's not the main driving force behind their ideology.

We must also recognize that these people are not just a threat to minorities or homosexuals, etc. They are a threat to everyone. They are a huge threat to our 2nd amendment rights.

When the second amendment goes bye bye if it does go bye bye it will be because of these racist terrorists, the PTB will use it asan excuse to further push gun control. But think about it, would you feel safe being anywhere near an over the edge about to snap racist? Its like a recipe for self destruction.