After reading Metallicus's recent thread
and other threads expressing
of similar issues
which they might not get
do not fully understand
I felt I had to ask something.
I don't want to be ageist but I can't help but wonder if some of the hostility to the Supreme Court's recent decision on marriage equality has to do
with the greater changes which have taken place in American society during a lot of these (mostly older) people's lives in which people not from the
excluded group join as allies for things like equality?
The tl;dr part is below
For instance, today a lot of straight people love going to things like Pride parades and I know that in my city Pride Weekend and the gay clubs are
often filled with straight people looking to party (sometimes annoying the clubs traditional patrons prompting such clubs to post signs outside
reminding everyone that the club primarily caters to the LGBTQ community) as the some go these clubs typically have been more interesting, have better
music, etc. Likewise, clubs which were not known as places LGBT people were welcome have often gone out of their way to attract them and as such have
become more integrated in the process. I think this might be true in other cities too? idk? But there is certainly more of a "nebulosity" two the
whole social scene in my city.
So think one difference between older people and younger people in the US with regards to things like the Supreme Court is that LGBT people are less
"mysterious" or "scary" or viewed as "other" to younger people because we've all partied together, known people who were openly gay in school or even
in our families, etc. And even people in the most rural parts of America might have friends on Facebook, etc who are LGBT.
So this growing acceptance of people who former generations commonly feared or ostracized along with other social and technological changes which have
resulted in the world becoming an ever smaller place (and as such things long associated with "American culture" being modified, questioned), has
some people who have kind of been out of touch with these gradual changes until one issue or another brings then to the forefront which leads to an
often angry rant against them often from what would currently be viewed as an insensitive or perhaps even extreme position.
I've seen this first hand in some recent threads on ATS. I wonder however, if it's all a matter of generational perspective? Most of the people who
are uncomfortable with the changes that have taken place tend to be over 50? Yet wasn't their generation, the one which ushered in and promoted vast
social changes in the 1960s which continue to present day? Did they think that the river of progress was supposed to stop, ore even, dare I say,
From what I understand about the 1960s and 1970s many similar parallels were taking place. There were wars. There were great economic changes as new
industries began and old ones ended. People, whose voices were either ignored, silenced to discounted i.e.: people of African, Latino or Native
American descent and women were finally being taken seriously and a youth culture based around questioning the beliefs. biases and dogmas of their
parents grew up listening to and seeing music, often by performed by people of African descent from the American south.
Was it not they, who were largely responsible for those changes which built popular support for things such as the 1968 Civil Rights Act, the end of
segregation, equal pay for women doing the same jobs as men, and other similar social causes which were at the time viewed by many of their parents as
"radical"? "Too much too soon." or "Disruptive"?
Those who had dug in their heals on the grounds of "tradition" eventually found themselves on the wrong side of history as things like interracial
relationships, women in the workplace and military as well as increased respect for and fairness of people of a different ethnicity were no longer
radical things but the norm. It is hard for me to imagine anyone thinking an interracial marriage is an abomination in the eyes God "or that "a
women's place is in the home" but I understand that back then there were those who felt those things were a sure sign that the end apocalypse was near
and that end would be the end America, or at least the America which they knew.
How ironic then is it that many of the same people who were part of the 1960s youth culture and movements somehow have seemingly missed similar social
changes around an increasing awareness of LGBT equality which began in the 1980s around the youngest of their generation were probably becoming middle
aged and perhaps less in tune with many of the causes they once championed? Perhaps they understandably became more concerned with taking care of
their family, saving for their kid's education, and less with the issues of social justice they once championed?
So when the increasing visibility of lesbian, bi, gay, and trans people in pop culture began the 1990s, I wonder if most were probably unaware,
understandably concerned with other things of more personal importance until one by one different states and corporations began recognizing same-sex
marriage and offering same-sex married couples the same benefits as heterosexual married couples already were receiving.
Likewise I wonder if most of the former "radical 60s generation" was asleep as movements to treat transsexual and transgender people with the same
dignity as those were lucky enough to be born into a body which matched their gender identity, were caught unaware of them until the recent visibility
of transsexual and transgender issues with people like Chaz Bono (child of Cher), best selling author Janet Mock, actress Laverne Cox of Orange is the
New Black and Laura Jayne Grace of popular punk band "Against Me!" all coming out or coming to prominence as transsexual or transgender people in the
last few years?
How else to explain some of the shocked reactions to the news about Caitlyn Jenner who isn't even the first athlete or former athlete to make such a
change to live as their genuine self in the public (i.e.: Rene Richards did in the 1970s)?
I mean everyone knows someone who is gay and quite a few people know people who are trans either among their friends, or people they follow on
Facebook, Twitter, or perhaps even their own family right?
One thing I've learned from history is that changes in American seem to happen when not just the excluded or discriminated against group who initally
pushed for such changes to happen become less "other" and more familiar. It is then that they are joined by those in the majority who are not part of
their excluded or discriminated against group.
edit on 27-6-2015 by JadeStar because: (no reason given)