What happened to WTC 7?

originally posted by: Mianeye
a reply to: subfab

These pics, and these links.
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The site claims the claim that it was more "than a few small fires" is debunked because they found an angle where a lot of smoke can be seen. That is still a "few small fires". A building burning good looks like this.

gaia.adage.com...

rt.com...

I am not entirely sure what they use in China as building materials for a building to burn like a freaking blowtorch to begin with, but you get the point.

Buildings are built in a way that even if all combustible material burns up the frame can dissipate the heat throughout the structure without weakening to the point that the building collapses. Both the dissipation achieved through the interconnected frame and the load redundancy the buildings are built with makes sure of that.

Therefore a building built the right way does not collapse from fire. Therefore if it collapsed it was not due to fires.

a reply to: Merinda

So you are an expert on what a fire should look like ?

Fire photographer Steve Spak shoot a series of video on WTC 7 that day

Clips 1-6 show south side of WTC 7 (clips 7-11 north face) - heavy smoke can be seen pushing out of many floors

Because of heavy smoke and fact is daylight can see little visible flame

Pay attention to Clip #4 - Can hear photographer exclaiming "THAT'S WHY PULLED EVERYONE OUT OF HERE...."

www.911myths.com...

a reply to: Merinda

Buildings are built in a way that even if all combustible material burns up the frame can dissipate the heat throughout the structure without weakening to the point that the building collapses.

So why is it that buildings built like Walmart's always collapse from fire?
Are you aware that each floor in WTC was little more than Walmart roof trusses?

They pulled the building down.

Debunkers are trying to say he meant pull the firemen out but the official FEMA report shows no firefighters were in the building and the fire chief denies that Larry ever told him to do that .

They evacuated the area around 3 and then they Pulled the building down.

originally posted by: Shadow Herder
they Pulled the building down.

Exactly when did they have time to install tonnes of explosives necessary to demolish a large building?? Or do you think they attached a winch cable to the building and drove off?

Or do you follow the James Bond school of blowing up buildings, by attaching egg timers to the walls?

a reply to: hellobruce

Sorry I just stick to facts. The fact is that the World Trade Center 7 was pulled/controlled in its collapse. Who knows when it was wired. It would be unsafe to allow the building to just burn up and hope for the best that's why the decision was made to PULL the building. They pulled the building for safety as Kerry and Silverstein stated.




Fire fighters said to reporters that the building was either going to 'come down on its own or it would be TAKEN DOWN'

originally posted by: Shadow Herder
a reply to: hellobruce

Sorry I just stick to facts.

No, you make up silly conspiracy theories, not facts.

The fact is that the World Trade Center 7 was pulled/controlled in its collapse.

That is not a fact, but a silly conspiracy theory!

Who knows when it was wired.

No one knows, as it was not wired!

It would be unsafe to allow the building to just burn up and hope for the best

So you think it is standard practice for fire brigades to rush into damaged, burning buildings with tonnes of explosives to blow them up.... your ideas get sillier and sillier! Also you have not stopped and actually thought how silly they are.

I provided proof and facts that WTC 7 was pulled for safety. The fact is that world trade center 7 was pulled and controlled in its collapse.

What is silly is your attempts to change the facts with opinions and wishful thinking and silly opinions.

Thanks for your contribution its been noted where you stand.

originally posted by: Shadow Herder
I provided proof and facts that WTC 7 was pulled for safety. The fact is that world trade center 7 was pulled and controlled in its collapse.

They didnt control it very well .......

WTC 7 slid across a 4 lane road (Barclay St) and wrecked 30 West Broadway - Fiterman Hall

Debris from it smashed into Verizon Building at 140 West St causing 1 Billion in damage - Only the heavy
masonry construction (it was built in 1927) saved it from catastrophic damage

You sound like a 6 yr old trying to prove that Santa Claus is real......

a reply to: hellobruce
Shadow Hereder says " who knows when the building was wired " and you twist it....like you repeatedly do and say...." So you think it is standard practice for fire brigades to rush into damaged, burning buildings with tonnes of explosives to blow them up ".

Then you tell him his ideas get sillier and sillier.
It's YOU that constantly accuses people of stating the buildings were wired in those few hours leading up to the collapse.
No one knows what type of explosive or weapon was used on building seven......or on the twin towers.
Whatever was used wasn't and still isn't out there on the market for your average demo expert or company.

originally posted by: Shadow Herder
I provided proof and facts that WTC 7 was pulled for safety.

Like most truthers, you are confusing facts and opinions - you have provided no facts, just a opinion!

The fact is that world trade center 7 was pulled and controlled in its collapse.

Silly conspiracy theory not based on any facts at all - again, when do you think they had time to install the tonnes of explosives and man years of work needed to wire it up? I notice you ignore this, as it totally destroys your silly conspiracy theory!

originally posted by: lambros56
No one knows what type of explosive or weapon was used on building seven......or on the twin towers.

Yes we do know..... none were used!

originally posted by: lambros56
a reply to: hellobruce
Shadow Hereder says " who knows when the building was wired " and you twist it....like you repeatedly do and say...." So you think it is standard practice for fire brigades to rush into damaged, burning buildings with tonnes of explosives to blow them up ".

Then you tell him his ideas get sillier and sillier.
It's YOU that constantly accuses people of stating the buildings were wired in those few hours leading up to the collapse.
No one knows what type of explosive or weapon was used on building seven......or on the twin towers.
Whatever was used wasn't and still isn't out there on the market for your average demo expert or company.

Either way World Trade Center 7 was pulled to ensure a controlled collapse on September 11 2001. No way around that fact as all the evidence showed.

a reply to: Shadow Herder You can post the video of Silverstein all you want. It does not change the fact that he had no control of anything that day. FDNY had control of the firefighting effort. They looked at the damage, they looked at the loss of life, they decided the building was probably going to collapse all by itself. Those are the facts, that is the reality.

7 was demolished. how 'silly' it is to claim anything else. oh so 'silly'. the 'silliness' of the OSers is lamentable, predictable and incessant. did i say 'silly'? better get that in again. such 'silly' OSers. get a life guys. get over your 'silly' selves eh?

a reply to: Isurrender73

The entire building goes into freefall within it's own footprint, exactly what we would expect from a controlled demolition.

Please post a video of a modern glass and ferro-concrete building falling over so that it does not fall into its own footprint; this would presumably be what a spontaneous collapse would look like.

Damage and fire in WTC7 can bring it down the same as an implosion....into nearly it's footprint....Why wouldn't it.

People misunderstand how WEAK the steel I beams are under a collapsing load. It's not like Jenga' blocks, where the top blocks bounce off the bottom blocks and are catapulted sideways. When the building skeleton fails, it comes down square on top of the lower sections, which is maybe contrary to some people's "intuition", but a look at any demo job shows how a multi-story building falls.

I have PLENTY of probs with 9/11, but building collapse isn't one of them. Debating subtle perception of "how" the buildings came down won't EVER nail the perps, so it's really an execrcise in mental masturbation.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz4
7 was demolished. how 'silly' it is to claim anything else. oh so 'silly'. the 'silliness' of the OSers is lamentable, predictable and incessant. did i say 'silly'? better get that in again. such 'silly' OSers. get a life guys. get over your 'silly' selves eh?

Yes wtc 7 was pulled/controlled collapse. They had plans to bring it down because of the loss of life that day and they weren't sure they could contain the fires, so they made the decision to pull (smartest thing they could come up with), and they watched the building collapse - L. Silverstein, Owner of the World trade center complex.

a reply to: Shadow Herder

Once again, you bring up the ONE individual that had the least amount of say that day. The one person who FDNY says, "Who?' about.

You really think a crew of Supermen ran in, and wired the building for demolition in three-four hours and then ran out?

originally posted by: Kromlech
None of these steel-structured buildings collapsed after hours and hours (some a couple days) of being on fire:

www.serendipity.li...

I will say the same to you as to everyone who posts links to those pictures did you check how many were steel frame ONLY .