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You've been around a while now DPK. What about having a bash at a thread yourself?
Len published all the information he had on a case, his thinking being that it might provide the solution that someone else wanted. He often commented about the reliability of the information but didn't suppress it. As I tried to point out, with the Del Rio case, which he "reopened" with his 1978 paper, he then printed the problems with it in one of his status reports, telling us that it was not reliable. I applaud Len for his willingness to share all the information.
George Price reported...something which had lived in his mind, as clear as day, for eight years. It happened in September 2002, when he was serving in the Army.
He wrote: “We were on exercises on Salisbury Plain. I was a commander in the turret of our tank, and we were advancing to contact our warriors. I was scanning the landscape when I turned to my 5 o’clock and looked right at a large, ape-like figure. It looked scared because of the noise from the engines and tanks were moving at speed all around.
I couldn’t believe my eyes, so I punched my gunner to look at it because he couldn’t hear me over the engine. We both saw it run into nearby prickly shrubs. “Its fur was similar to an orang-utan in colour, and the length and flow of it. Its face looked black, or darkish, but I couldn’t see its facial features, being too high an angle above it. It was more its gait – the way it moved: it was very fast and seemed to run with large strides. Its height was impressive too, it must have been 6ft-plus, but it seemed to run with its back low, i.e. bent over.
It was an amazing sight to see it disappear into the shrubs. I kept staring at the spot as my tank was moving away but it never emerged again, as if there was a hole below the bush it dived into. I observed the area at distance for a while via the tank’s optics but nothing else was seen. It must have been terrified to move with half the British army tearing Salisbury Plain up. “
I told my superiors as soon as we stopped but it was laughed off so I never mentioned it much after. I did ask my gunner about it and he said he had seen it but not well enough to describe it. It has bothered me to this day, so I thought I would share it with you. I wish I had stopped to see it now. It was right next to me. Very strange.”
Source : Fortean Times Archived
originally posted by: mirageman
This is vaguely similar to the description given by a forestry worker in Scotland back in 1979. Bob Livingston who claimed the rather strange looking craft he witnessed was partially translucent.
Bob Taylor - Livingston Incident 1979
There were physical markings at the site and Taylor's trousers showed sign of damage. The weird thing is that he was not too far from the M8 motorway, it was late morning and not a soul witnessed anything strange in the sky?.
.So I suspect we humans may not actually be be capable of comprehending the 'real phenomenon' and it actually manifests itself in the mind of the witness as whatever the witness conceives it to be.
originally posted by: Kandinsky
What do we make of this? It seems to me that a trickle of historical alien and UFO memes were sourced from somewhere within the USAF. Whilst some of the stories reek of hoaxers, others seem to come from decent guys with no incentive to tell tall tales.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: 111DPKING111
Go on! Do that the Madagascar thread! I know very little about that case so will certainly be interested.
People even claim to have seen weird creatures here in Britain (Bigfoot included!)
Bigfoot in England
There is also an interesting tale from a tank crew training on Salisbury plain in Wiltshire (which is an area of the country close to Stonehenge)
originally posted by: Springer
a reply to: mirageman
That tank story sounds remarkably like what has been reported on and around Skinwalker Ranch, the "disappearing into the shrubbery specifically. One theory is there are multidimensional gateways in certain places, another theory is that there are methods or "tools" that can pop open a gateway in certain magnetic fields that are geographically abundant on this planet.
There is also the theory that 100% of these sightings were miss interpretations of what really happened or pure hallucinations, I find it intriguing that they seem to happen all over the place.
originally posted by: karl 12
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: 111DPKING111
Go on! Do that the Madagascar thread! I know very little about that case so will certainly be interested.
I second that one.
There's a preponderance of radial symmetry and they have aerodynamic features that would suggest designs for efficient travel within thick atmospheres like ours.
I guess I stepped in it mightily. I been looking for info as I go down the rabbit holes, hopefully can put together something.
I've had it in the back of my mind that the size and shape dealt with their gravity propulsion. Maybe it isnt possible to manipulate the field around a large structure. Of course in Star Wars, I think the death star could even go into hyperspace, maybe the truth is only small ships are capable.
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Kandinsky
You've pretty much summed up these saucer crash stories. I am very dubious about them as well.
They all seem to be smaller craft. There never seems to be anything like onboard living quarters, bathrooms etc. I don't think I've even heard of food, water and medical supplies being discovered?
Even if one of the stories is true then what's going on? Why abandon your people? Only alternative reason I can think of is one alluded to earlier in the thread. That these creatures are either something akin to 'Space Monkeys' or perhaps even biological robots. They are expendable and created specifically for space travel.