Hallo Spaceboy – Exploring the Era of the ‘Contactees’

a reply to: Blue Shift

I have no problem with the notion that some sentient lifeforms have learned how to manipulate real fields of some sort. Electrical eels do it...
humans do it with technology....

I'm thoroughly convinced that life and some
fields in physics can be intertwined to cause
real effects.

In 100 years humans with cybernetic implants
will do 'magic' 3 times before lunch every day.

Personally I think that some humans such as
contactees get infested with some sort of
em field / protolifeform and are then the
epicenter of strange effects.

These thoughts are not super far out at all..
to me anyway.

Kev

a reply to: InhaleExhale

If they don't answer many question and there isn't much dialog between you's, how you can be so certain they are actually extra terrestrials?

Well, they aren't from New Jersey.

And just to set the record straight, I never use the term extraterrestrials. I prefer the wider term aliens.
Either way, they are not from here. What do you want to call them?

a reply to: Scdfa

We do know a great deal.
And most of it never sees the light of day;
certainly not on the Internet.

I do find your passion interesting.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Blue Shift

I have no problem with the notion that some sentient lifeforms have learned how to manipulate real fields of some sort. Electrical eels do it...
humans do it with technology....

I'm thoroughly convinced that life and some
fields in physics can be intertwined to cause
real effects.

In 100 years humans with cybernetic implants
will do 'magic' 3 times before lunch every day.

Personally I think that some humans such as
contactees get infested with some sort of
em field / protolifeform and are then the
epicenter of strange effects.

These thoughts are not super far out at all..
to me anyway.

Kev

Wow, that's absurd.

These vehicles leave holes in the ground from their landing gear.

Does that happen from an "em field infestation"?

No. It happens from real objects with real landing gear.

Stop ignoring the seventy years of evidence gathered on these encounters.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Its really hard to know, some of these people he spoke with in person(so he could gauge their credibility and do background checks as to their qualifications) and was comparing notes against other people he was talking with. Unlike now, there was no internet for his informants to check what other people were saying, especially on the minute details of the autopsies.

And still then, interesting as Stringfields data is, it still doesnt answer the big questions.

IMO the data isnt even comparable to the evidence for UFO craft like Madagascar in 54, but its about all there is.

@mirageman - I thought this article discussed their need for lower gravity, but not seeing it.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Scdfa

We do know a great deal.
And most of it never sees the light of day;
certainly not on the Internet.

I do find your passion interesting.

Kev

Oh, my passion is interesting? How marvelous for you.

What we know does indeed see the light of day on the internet, when I'm typing.

a reply to: Scdfa

Vallee has flown around the world for 40+
years investigating physical evidence....

There certainly is physical evidence. I have
never once said there wasn't.

Our world runs on electricity....which is
generally 'invisible' but I've seen it melt
copper wire 3 inches thick.

Frankly I don't want to argue with you.

You have your opinion and your experiences
just like we all do and you are free to disagree
with anyone you want....and to disregard
terrabytes of first hand data collected
from perhaps before you were born.

But the rest of us get to share our thoughts
and experiences too.

I'm leaving the thread as I've had my fill.

G'day!

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

and to disregard
terrabytes of first hand data collected
from perhaps before you were born.

I challenge you to tell me exactly what "terrabytes of first hand data" regarding alien abductions I'm ignoring.

"From perhaps before I was born"?

Betty and Barney Hill were taken in 1961. I was taken in 1966.

Truth is, it is you who have ignored the data complied regarding alien encounters, and as I pointed this out several posts ago, your counter-accusation sounds rather hollow.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: InhaleExhale

Hello mate,

Yes I've had my 'debates' with 'Scdfella' myself in the past. But then I realised the guy had a sense of humour I've definitely mellowed to him now. And he's certainly offered some very interesting comments.

I will also defend him because he's going through a lot at the moment and it's easy to get wound up by anyone when you are in a fragile state of mind. Let's face it there are a lot more important things in this world than discussions on fringe topics like this!

So I'll leave it there for Scdfa to reply to you if he wishes and respect his silence if he chooses not to.

Thank you mm, very kind of you.
Maybe I was a little rough on KellyPrettyBear. I'm sorry about that. I can definitely be an ass.
I'll apologize next time I see her.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: Scdfa

Hi Scdfa,

Thanks for getting a little deeper than what I usually see from you,

2.I really do not know this one.
If they ever told me, I can't consciously remember it.
I'm not sue to what degree my encounters are similar to others, but they don't volunteer a lot of information or answer a lot of questions. Some questions, yes, but you have to really impress them or annoy them to get their interest.
Nor do they ask many questions, usually they're all business.
Now that you make me think about it, I think they are on a very tight schedule. I can say that with conviction. I don't know if anyone ever said that about them before, I may be the first.

This is why I have such an arrogant attitude when I ask you questions,

If they don't answer many question and there isn't much dialog between you's, how you can be so certain they are actually extra terrestrials?

I might have implied I don't believe you but have said I do believe you believe in what you say and that you have had profound experiences, its just that saying your an expert and that you know what they are doesn't show when you post, or you hold back for some reason or another which is why I and others might imply you might be making things up.

Not that I really believe you are, But I like to challenge people that say they have knowledge of such things to pass on that knowledge, otherwise its just story telling in my opinion, it might be a fact to the one telling the story but without passing the knowledge on by getting into details of how they have discounted other possible reasons or answers that might explain the profound experience and details of how they know its extra terrestrial if its claimed to be.

But back to your question on ET vs. Interdimensional.
Well, in another dimension, there might be planets too.
Or, they could be from another planet, here in our galaxy, or maybe another, and travel in some manner that we may consider to be interdimensional.
So couldn't they be both ET and interdimensional? You can probably throw time travel in there too.

Time travel, I have had experiences with what I believe is manipulation of time by an intelligence not known to myself that I believe is communicating with me and has been ever since I was about 5 years in 1984 in a way that I am not suppose to fully understand until the time in this linear timeline is right.

I try to decipher certain coincidences (which is one thing I don't really believe in, coincidences that is) or synchronicities which lead me in life and guide me to do and act in certain ways at certain times, however I still have no clue what it all means and why I suffer from these delusions (not that I really think they are but could be seen as such to any rational person).

I'm convinced it was entering our dimension, our reality. But its starting point I can't say.

Whats you take on 'our reality'

Do you think it might be as we would know in this point in time what a simulation is, and certain intelligence's can manipulate that?

That is what I lean to explain certain unknowns.

I don't think we are programs or fake beings created by ET or in a spiritual nature, GOD, but are projections of our real selves, projections of a conscious mind linked to a greater intelligence that maybe created but most certainly can manipulate the simulated universes we and all life, intelligent, sentient and not on other planets inhabit, which in turn does sounds like God or an intelligence created us as separate parts of itself.

I'll also tell you this, and this is something I have not revealed to this point. One of them once told my brother of a future event, about a decade before it happened. It was an event that was reported nationally, but of questionable significance. If I told you what it was, you would not believe it.

But you don't think any of it is true anyway.

I wish you would share,

I don't get into what I have experienced much at all I voice my beliefs in a truthful manner which is based on what I receive or what I read that is in front of me, I have shared bits and pieces of what I have experienced in PMs with some members but rarely open up about personal experiences because I want to understand myself and on my own before I try sharing what I know or suspect to others, In your case you give many of these bits and pieces and like to tease readers.

Please share or please send me a PM about what your brother was told.

Stop with teasing of you wont believe, you don't really care who believes or not do you if its really true to you?

I know I don't, If I believe something and want to share it I wont tease readers I will say it and if what I say is criticized I have the choice to respond or to ignore, that's what is great about ATS.

Not responding might shorten the debate/discussion but sometimes that can be positive as we all know how off topic threads can get.

I mean is this long post on topic?

Its questionable, I haven't addressed anything in the OP (which by the way is a great thread and great OP) but I have asked questions directed to you who claims to be one, a contactee that is.

Don't worry, I am still laughing, somethings posted ATS by a wide range of posters that sit on opposite sides of the fence on many subjects make me laugh for many reasons, Its better to laugh than cry.

Laughter towards one doesn't always mean they think its crazy what they are seeing or reading, sometimes it could be laughter in agreement, other times because yes it sounds insane and other times simply because you find contradiction in what you read and remember reading from the same poster or simply because you see so much repetition.

I hope you didn't take what you said In another thread as insulting, I just found it a little ironic coming from you due to you teasing with knowledge so often but never really getting into detail, just jumping on skeptical posts and telling them that you are proof of contact in one way or another, not in those exact words but I hope you get what I mean, you post to emotionally towards skeptical posts just as much a some skeptics post towards believers posts, its funny from both ends.

Thank you for the friendly post, there is a lot in this post, and I will take time later to respond with the depth it deserves.

a reply to: Kandinsky

I think he was possibly used as a sounding board by the myth-makers. He had the stories of aliens being shot by military base guards and then he had the images of dead aliens

For the autopsies/ufo retrievals, Stringfield gives us the numbers from here

As of July 20, 1978, for the record, I am aware of more than 50 sources who bear information relative to the subject of retrievals or storage of alien craft, and/or the deceased alien humanoids recoveredd from the craft. From this number I have selected 22 of the sources whose testimony is reviewed in this paper. Most others lack sufficient data and a few have "dried up" so to speak, out of fear of military reprisal or public ridicule

Probably the most interesting paper I read from Stringfield was the Fort Dix alien shooting. Ultimately the case ends in frustration as he knows the evidence for the case doesnt amount to much . Years later, George Filer would offer some corroboration for the incident.

Video of George Filer who talkes about this and other ufos

a reply to: 111DPKING111

.... I thought this article discussed their need for lower gravity, but not seeing it.

There is an awful lot about physiology and even the lack of blood but some strange clear liquid found in the body of one creature. But I didn't see anything in there about "lower gravity" either. It's probably in a very similar document (i.e Flying Saucer Review). But I haven't had time to look for it.

Thank you mm, very kind of you. Maybe I was a little rough on KellyPrettyBear. I'm sorry about that. I can definitely be an ass. I'll apologize next time I see her.

a reply to: Scdfa

Hello Scdfella mate,

Yes Kev is a good guy (he's a him not a her) . As the general topic of the thread is "contactees" or "abductees" and all things in between . I think this is a good chance to discuss everything related to this topic with plenty of speculation thrown in.

So your own thoughts and experiences are particularly interesting in this thread. But then Kev's (KellyPrettyBear) are too . You both may be dealing with two totally different phenomena. All I would ask (seeing as it's my thread) is you, me and everyone else consider what Kev has to say in as equally a reasonable manner as he does with us.


Kind Regards MM

a reply to: 111DPKING111

Thanks for all this information.

I am not really sure about all these UFO crashes Stringfield reported . As for the dead alien at Fort Dix. It's a great story but I don't know an awful lot about it either. So thanks for the video as well.

I haven't time to look through it all until the weekend so will come back to you then.

a reply to: mirageman

In fact if the 'greys' are real creatures then their whole physiology seems totally wrong.

Massive heads supported on a tiny neck?

What kind of planet could support such a lifeform?

Planet Disney?



The "Greys" might be considered to be the "Hallo Spaceboy" version of Mickey Mouse or Winnie the Pooh.

Some insight in to this might be gained by checking out Mike Baxter's Product design. Here is a link to the relevant material:

Mike Baxter: Product Design

You've heard this stuff before, right? Neotony?



What, for instance, would it take to get you to check out the James-Lange theory? It might help to alleviate any questions you have about the mechanics suggested by this post.

Double Smiley Face.

a reply to: Bybyots

to you Bybyots

It's all worth a look at in this golden section of ATS!

a reply to: mirageman

It's all worth a look at in this golden section of ATS!

Well, you have finally left me convinced that you truly are an "entertainment purposes only" type of guy when it comes to all of this UFO business, mirageman. That's a stunt that I have never been able to pull off for myself, but that I admire in others.

We have December to look forward to, with the anniversary of Rendlesham Forest coming up. I'm looking forward to some warm winter discussions concerning that.

Have a nice Saturday.

a reply to: Bybyots

Thank you I had a great Saturday.

And just to clear it up, because reading between the lines, you sound a bit disappointed with my stance here.
This whole topic is a form of 'entertainment' to me, along with a number of other things I hold an interest in. I simply haven't the time or the inclination to become a full time (or even part time) researcher in this field. I think there is something going on that we don't understand and I do enjoy looking at certain aspects of Ufology. But I don't devote all my free time to it and am not obsessed with the topic.

As regards Rendlesham - Chuck Halt is due over here to speak very shortly and then the ball will start rolling towards the 35th anniversary at the end of the year!

a reply to: mirageman

...you sound a bit disappointed with my stance here.

This whole topic is a form of 'entertainment' to me, along with a number of other things I hold an interest in. I simply haven't the time or the inclination to become a full time (or even part time) researcher in this field. I think there is something going on that we don't understand and I do enjoy looking at certain aspects of Ufology. But I don't devote all my free time to it and am not obsessed with the topic.

Yeah, you got it: we are totally the opposite in that respect.

I've had it bad since I was an adolescent, even earlier. I won't stop 'til it's ground to a nub, the subject infuses everything I do and experience.

It's good to be different. Cheers, mirageman.





ETA:

(or even part time)

Oh please; you've got it pretty bad yourself.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Bybyots

along with a number of other things I hold an interest in. But I don't devote all my free time to it and am not obsessed with the topic.

Hey MM, I appreciate the fine threads on the topic and the excellent Brit wit, not to mention manners I'm sure your folks are proud of which many here should emulate; but if this isn't a mild obsession with the topic I'm not sure what qualifies..........but please keep on doing your fine work...