Shock Video: Teen Boy Shot and Killed by Cop for Flashing Headlights and Flexing Rights

a reply to: hefficide

Henry County. That kind of explains it. I carry a pocket knife too. That you could be arrested simply for having it in your pocket or touching your pocket while being the victim of an assault is one of those BS laws i mention in another thread. Such is the nature of the police, alas.

This is getting off topic, but I still dont see why he didn't get arrested for assault. :/

a reply to: Pryde87

The source the OP used has a bad habit of sensationalizing their titles and their articles are always misleading, full of disinformation, and ultra-biased.

When I read something like "Shock Video: Teen Boy Shot and Killed by Cop for Flashing Headlights and Flexing Rights", I'm actually expecting to see a roid-raging cop completely lose his sh!t and shoot some kid in the face for flashing his headlights and refusing to show his ID... but as the video clearly shows, that's not what happened here.

In fact, I'm surprised that the free thought project hasn't already made it on the list of sources that will land your thread in the hoax bin.

a reply to: seeker1963

Showing a little "respect" goes a long damn way. I find it odd that in this day of social conditioning that those who are demanding "respect" are also the same group who who pick and choose who gets it?

i agree ...the cops should be put in their place

they have no right to kill people for not showing respect for their badge

originally posted by: Bedlam
When you don't fear them, they're insulted. Want to really set one off? Laugh.

I laugh all the time, and this is literally one of my biggest fears lol.

The only time I've ever been pulled over the cop walked up and told me, after asking why I had been pulled over, that "I had stopped over the line" when proceeding through a stop sign.

He was not only behind me and couldn't possibly have made that determination, he had also been tailgating me for me around half a mile before hand so I made damn well sure to do a perfect stop at the stop sign, since it was obviously a cop fishing for drunks.

Upon hearing his explanation, and while handing him my information, I scoffed at him and started snigg-ering*. Boy did he take his sweet time running my numbers. I'm sure the database was slowing to a crawl with my literal 0 traffic incidents or encounters with police. Right.

*Lol, swear filter

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Bedlam

I love all these ideas, but don't like the idea of giving the federal government more control.

Well, actually, I'd prefer the military be put in control of LEO investigation.

The problem, as I see it, is to have a neutral party with reduced chance of corruption in charge of the investigation. That leaves out the cops themselves, and any local prosecutor whose success at the job requires police cooperation then or later.

You need an organization whose judges and investigators are not only immune to local politics and police reprisal, either direct or indirect, but who are incentivized to find those LEOs guilty, and empowered to apply a punishment sufficiently severe both to the officer(s) found guilty and the organization itself directly, not through the intermediary of some insurance company, that they feel no desire to repeat that transgression.

As is, they're insulated from the consequences of their actions by nol pros, by immunity and even when they're found guilty, it's vanishingly rare that they have to pay for it personally. Back on the street they go, and the taxpayer gets to foot it.

What needs to happen is more like a criminal forfeiture.

originally posted by: framedragged

originally posted by: Bedlam
When you don't fear them, they're insulted. Want to really set one off? Laugh.

I laugh all the time, and this is literally one of my biggest fears lol.

I had one go ballistic at Rosie's in Huntsville years ago. They had just changed the uniform rules so that the street guys could wear tactical crap.

So overnight, they all looked like cute little Rangers or SF, all tricked out in their tact-i-cool uniforms.

We were eating when a couple of them swaggered in for lunch, and I started hee-hawing at them. Wow, did they not like that.

"I think the only thing you're missing is a STABO rig, man"

If people think that kid was lippy and rude to the cop, i would have been shot by a cop a long time ago, sickos on steroids killing kids, next at 6.

a reply to: roaland

Tased for what purpose? To teach him a lesson? That's his parents job not the #ing cops. Find a reason to give him a #load of tickets fine whatever.
YOU DON'T TASE PEOPLE TO TEACH A LESSON AND YOU DON'T #ING SHOOT UNARMED 17 YEAR OLD KIDS.

WTF when is this # going to stop.

a reply to: Answer

That's the common factor in every single one of these shootings. They all go down the same way: idiot breaks the law, idiot argues with the cop and refuses to comply, cop tries to detain the idiot, idiot fights cop, cop shoots idiot.

How about this one?



I would of posted more videos, but one will be enough considering your statement above.

Kids give cops a hard time everywhere, in every nation; so why are kids getting "popped" by those meant to serve and protect in the states on a regular basis...?

I admit that most times it does go down the way you suggested, but not all the time...

These cases are presented every time as "cop shoots unarmed black man /teenager/ black teenager /student/whatever and nobody wants to see what LED UP TO the moment of the shooting.

There you are! Spots and all...

You had to go there, huh? The kid was white that killed here. Why did you find the need to state the above....in the way you did?

Question: What is the difference between teenager and black teenager? Why did you separate them as two entities?

A reasonable person reacts swiftly and violently to end the attack.

Personally speaking, my martial arts training has me agreeing.

In reality, you can be knocked cold with one hit and then your attacker is free to do whatever he wants. People with the best self-defense training in the world know better than to fight fair. That's how you get hurt or dead.

True, but we don't need to shoot anybody either to get the job done...especially when engaged in confrontation with a 17 year old. Tasers are meant to deter such scenarios but unfortunately the officer was inept.

So, pumping seven bullets into an unarmed kid due to the officer being unskilled at protecting himself without the use of lethal force is justified because: People seem to think that life works like the movies and you can go toe-to-toe with a guy for 6 rounds of fisticuffs until you finally get the guy to give up. In reality, you can be knocked cold with one hit and then your attacker is free to do whatever he wants.

Police officers doing whatever they want is just as bad....

a reply to: diggindirt

What happened to make cops so paranoid? Probably the enormous number of times a routine traffic stop turns into a shootout because the suspect was up to more than just a moving violation. Then you add in maniacs with a grudge targeting LEOs, and the huge number of other dangerous people out there that cops are encountering regularly. Nobody on ATS ever puts together the full picture of what's going on, they just hate all authority.

originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: smurfy

Remarkable how many people jump to conclusions about an incident, when they don't even have all the facts. I would lay partial blame on the media. Ever see the movie 'Nightcrawler'? There was a part in there (spoiler), the news lady talked about how most people watch local news, and while violent crime was way down, that's what most of their stories were about. Giving people the perception there is a widespread problem, like police brutality, when it is in reality an extremely rare occurrence.

I can see why no charges were filed.

It doesn't seem that the media had much play in this at all, pretty much under the radar in fact. The prosecutor is now making it extremely difficult for the family to make a civil case, because they are going have to do the the same groundwork police officially need to do. The policeman killed a youngster without authenticated need in a contrived situation, by that meaning something amiss that he was already aware of by his own doing and compliance, while continuing to do so.

originally posted by: ShadeWolf
a reply to: diggindirt

What happened to make cops so paranoid? Probably the enormous number of times a routine traffic stop turns into a shootout because the suspect was up to more than just a moving violation. Then you add in maniacs with a grudge targeting LEOs, and the huge number of other dangerous people out there that cops are encountering regularly. Nobody on ATS ever puts together the full picture of what's going on, they just hate all authority.

Not true, aberrations of authority is the main culprit if anything, the way you talk of is like the sacrificial lamb, and someone needs to die to make the big picture right, even if they die wrongly.

from michiganlegalaid.org

If stopped while driving, you must show the officer your driver license, vehicle registration, and proof of auto insurance, but you do not have to answer any questions without a lawyer present.

So this guy didn't actually understand all the laws he thought he did. I imagine every state requires showing license if stopped while driving.

originally posted by: Answer
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originally posted by: Answer
I rolled my eyes when I read the thread title and said to myself "ok, what's the REAL story..."

Sure enough, the stupid kid refuses to comply with the officer's demands and then decided to play tough guy and fight a cop. It ends as anyone could predict.

How about titling the thread as it should be: "Idiot fights with cop and loses."

So basically you are saying if you act like an idiot, you deserve to die? Man.. they certainly have changed the rules since I was a kid.

Even at his worst level of idiocy, he deserves at most.. MOST.. a night in jail. If that. He certainly does not deserve to be shot 7 times. I find it disturbing that you or anyone else thinks that acting that way towards law enforcement means dying is a predictable result.

a reply to: alienjuggalo

...and yet, seems apparent that this young man, has been watching too many YouTube videos about Constitutional Rights, and police interaction. (NOTE: consider the difficulty this teen had comprehending, that it was past time to quit dicking with his phone.. and comprehend that he was escalating a simple request far out of the bounds of the flashing brights event.)

Once the taser had been threatened... this interaction had been "weaponized". The young mans only weapon was his "opinion", and he was willing to match that with a taser, held by a LEO who also had a firearm strapped to his hip.

It didn't have to go down that way... and if the kid hadn't let his ego escalate the exchange, he would have probably left with a warning, and his life.

Simply put, not using bright lights against oncoming cars is likely codified in the State statutes... so, the cop already had standing, and potential probable cause.

I am as enraged as most folks, about all the Constitutionally "dirty" cops out there, abusing their power, and escalating to lethal force... this was not one of those confrontations.

Yes... the cop could have decided not to use lethal force... but if the kid was coming at him at all... he wrote his own death warrant.

Know your rights... and demand them. But, don't be a dumbass when interacting with LEO's.

a reply to: smurfy

...what? That entire paragraph...what? You completely missed my point. What I'm saying is that American cops have every reason to be paranoid, because in the past year alone I can think of half a dozen instances of crazies specifically targeting LEOs for violence. That incident in New York earlier this year, Dallas last week, Vegas and Dorner last year...

a reply to: Answer

Well stated. I was trying to compose a similar line of text, but hit the nail on the head.

It is hard to believe what some people can take from this video and blame this kid..

We see a kid get drug from his car and then while laying face down on the ground gets jumped on and tazed,

Only after being drug from the car and tazed did he fight back. Im pretty sure a natural survival instinct would kick in when you are being electrocuted after you lay on the ground and comply.

a reply to: alienjuggalo

WOW! That was almost like watching a Horror flick.

a reply to: roadgravel

It's the new brainwashing.

There is this wave of "You can't tell me what to do" entitlement.

No one respects the Government or authority anymore.

The latest generations are growing up with no sense of consequence for their actions.

When finally held accountable people's world view is shattered and since they CAN NOT be wrong they turn against authority.

People have already started killing police officers sitting in their cars and shooting up police stations.

When that system breaks down, what happens?

What's the endgame?

Is it a feudal society with guns instead of swords where millions of peasants are ruled over by the 1% of population that makes up royalty and.... wait,what?