Shock Video: Teen Boy Shot and Killed by Cop for Flashing Headlights and Flexing Rights

originally posted by: JeanPaul
There's a serious problem in America with police brutality, and it's not just a "racist" thing either. I'm a "leftist" and it bothers

Actually their is a serious problem with brutality among humanity.
Look no farther than the Church shooting tonight in South Carolina yet all people do is blame the cops for everything.

a reply to: Answer

Oh I know. The kid played a part in this. I said so myself.

For the record I just came in and I had not seen the officers face. Obviously something happened when the camera,went dark.

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Liquesence

Cop was better than I believed he was. But I also agree, no reason at all to kill the kid. All teenage guys are douchebags at one time or another, including the ones who grow up to be cops. The cop was the adult and the professional with all the training. This should have ended very differently and without a loss of life.

Did you or did you not see the pictures of the officer's face?

Your "innocent douchebag teenager" shtick couldn't be further from the truth.

Here, since you obviously missed it:

At what point, in your mind, is the officer supposed to use deadly force? Before or after he's unconscious?

Why did he turn the camera off? For all we know the cop did that to himself.

If you'd read the thread instead of jumping to ridiculous conclusions, you'd already know that he didn't turn off his camera. It was knocked off during the struggle and the kid's cellphone recorded audio of the fight.

In your version of the story, did the cop tase the kid, stand him up, turn him around, shoot him 7 times, and then beat up his own face just because he wanted to kill someone? Seems plausible...

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: Answer

Oh I know. The kid played a part in this. I said so myself.

The kid didn't "play a part."

The kid escalated the situation from the beginning and then physically attacked a police officer.


What you mean to say is "the kid was 100% responsible for his own death."

a reply to: Answer

Thanks that's a big update and way more info then was provided in the OP. I didn't hear the cell recording of the fight.

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: JeanPaul
There's a serious problem in America with police brutality, and it's not just a "racist" thing either. I'm a "leftist" and it bothers

Actually their is a serious problem with brutality among humanity.
Look no farther than the Church shooting tonight in South Carolina yet all people do is blame the cops for everything.

Were they paid to do this? For a job? Do they have authority behind them? Courts? Jails? Prisons? Can they legally kill people? We're talking about a systemic issue here, one that can be fixed via body cameras, jail time for tampering with them, new training for cops and penalties for brutality. Cops beat, shoot and torture Americans every day. They are out of control. If this doesn't stop there will eventually be serious backlash. More serious than anything we've seen yet. It's brewing.

Rather than take some "cops are great people" attitude everyone should simply advocate policies which would greatly minimize police brutality. Unless one is pro-police brutality. Are you pro police brutality? If not, then you should support body cameras and harsh penalties for tampering with them or turning them off.

a reply to: Answer

Ok OK calm down bucko I am just now getting the updates on the story.

I'm not going to watch this video and I'm not going to make any conclusions as to who he is at fault at this time. Did the 17 year old deserve to die...hell no. Did the cop deserve to have his life in danger, hell no. Something has got to give here. It's not difficult for one to show respect and decency towards the police. For #s sake if only you knew what goes thru a cops head on every type of call or stop. It could be their last. They HAVE to be on edge otherwise it could be their last.

originally posted by: Answer

Did you or did you not see the pictures of the officer's face?

Your "innocent douchebag teenager" shtick couldn't be further from the truth.

Here, since you obviously missed it:

At what point, in your mind, is the officer supposed to use deadly force? Before or after he's unconscious?

Save your breath (well fingertips in this case)... they all believe he either did that to himself or the little MMA fighter was justified in beating him senseless. The relentless ignorance on display here is almost comical, yet frightening at the same time.

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: Answer

Oh I know. The kid played a part in this. I said so myself.

The kid didn't "play a part."

The kid escalated the situation from the beginning and then physically attacked a police officer.


What you mean to say is "the kid was 100% responsible for his own death."

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for posting the "other" part of the story that always seems to be forgotten in these cases. Not going to blame the OP one bit because sometimes that # just doesn't get released right away.

originally posted by: JeanPaul
Cops beat, shoot and torture Americans every day. They are out of control. If this doesn't stop there will eventually be serious backlash. More serious than anything we've seen yet. It's brewing.

Criminals and cowards , be they cops or civilians, beat , shoot and torture Americans every day.

Im not going to convince you that human nature over cops is the problem and you arent going to convince me that cops over human nature is the problem so whats the point in continuing?

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Liquesence

Cop was better than I believed he was. But I also agree, no reason at all to kill the kid. All teenage guys are douchebags at one time or another, including the ones who grow up to be cops. The cop was the adult and the professional with all the training. This should have ended very differently and without a loss of life.

Did you or did you not see the pictures of the officer's face?

Your "innocent douchebag teenager" shtick couldn't be further from the truth.

Here, since you obviously missed it:

At what point, in your mind, is the officer supposed to use deadly force? Before or after he's unconscious?

Why did he turn the camera off? For all we know the cop did that to himself.

If you'd read the thread instead of jumping to ridiculous conclusions, you'd already know that he didn't turn off his camera. It was knocked off during the struggle and the kid's cellphone recorded audio of the fight.

In your version of the story, did the cop tase the kid, stand him up, turn him around, shoot him 7 times, and then beat up his own face just because he wanted to kill someone? Seems plausible...

I don't believe that cops life was in danger one bit. Nope.

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: JeanPaul
Cops beat, shoot and torture Americans every day. They are out of control. If this doesn't stop there will eventually be serious backlash. More serious than anything we've seen yet. It's brewing.

Criminals and cowards , be they cops or civilians, beat , shoot and torture Americans every day.

Im not going to convince you that human nature over cops is the problem and you arent going to convince me that cops over human nature is the problem so whats the point in continuing?

"human nature". Why aren't you killing beating and torturing people?

Anyhow, on police brutality in general, you don;t seem to understand much. The issue is systemic, meaning, they have authority. This authority is being abused. Experiment after experiment has shown what happens when authority is given to people without viable checks and balances. Until we reform our law enforcement system this abuse will continue. Rational people don't just chalk this up to "human nature".

a reply to: alienjuggalo

That kid did deserve an attitude adjustment but probably not death, then again you cant see what the kid did as they were obviously fighting. This is sad the kid thought he could argue with a cop and win, second he should have listened and not been a smart ass and his night would have been fine.

This just shows the body cams only work so good. The kid could have tried to use the cops own back up weapon on him for all this video shows. He obviously jumped up and fought back after getting tazed for resiting.

originally posted by: JeanPaul
"human nature". Why aren't you killing beating and torturing people?

Probably the same reason all cops arent killing and torturing people, because a small % of something does not describe the behavior of the whole.

originally posted by: JeanPaul
Anyhow, on police brutality in general, you don;t seem to understand much. The issue is systemic, meaning, they have authority. This authority is being abused. Experiment after experiment has shown what happens when authority is given to people without viable checks and balances. Until we reform our law enforcement system this abuse will continue. Rational people don't just chalk this up to "human nature".

Got it, Ill bow out now since i dont seem to understand much.

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Liquesence

Cop was better than I believed he was. But I also agree, no reason at all to kill the kid. All teenage guys are douchebags at one time or another, including the ones who grow up to be cops. The cop was the adult and the professional with all the training. This should have ended very differently and without a loss of life.

Did you or did you not see the pictures of the officer's face?

Your "innocent douchebag teenager" shtick couldn't be further from the truth.

Here, since you obviously missed it:

At what point, in your mind, is the officer supposed to use deadly force? Before or after he's unconscious?

Why did he turn the camera off? For all we know the cop did that to himself.

If you'd read the thread instead of jumping to ridiculous conclusions, you'd already know that he didn't turn off his camera. It was knocked off during the struggle and the kid's cellphone recorded audio of the fight.

In your version of the story, did the cop tase the kid, stand him up, turn him around, shoot him 7 times, and then beat up his own face just because he wanted to kill someone? Seems plausible...

I don't believe that cops life was in danger one bit. Nope.

Of course you don't. I'm not surprised one bit.

You're wrong... but I'm not surprised. The fact that your reply has already received multiple stars shows how detached from reality the ATS anti-police crowd really are. In the minds of some people here, a police officer shouldn't fire until after he's been fired upon and even then, he should try to shoot them in the foot or shoot the gun out of their hand because that's how it happens in the movies.

At what point would the officer have been justified to use deadly force, in your opinion?

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Liquesence

Cop was better than I believed he was. But I also agree, no reason at all to kill the kid. All teenage guys are douchebags at one time or another, including the ones who grow up to be cops. The cop was the adult and the professional with all the training. This should have ended very differently and without a loss of life.

Did you or did you not see the pictures of the officer's face?

Your "innocent douchebag teenager" shtick couldn't be further from the truth.

Here, since you obviously missed it:

At what point, in your mind, is the officer supposed to use deadly force? Before or after he's unconscious?

Why did he turn the camera off? For all we know the cop did that to himself.

If you'd read the thread instead of jumping to ridiculous conclusions, you'd already know that he didn't turn off his camera. It was knocked off during the struggle and the kid's cellphone recorded audio of the fight.

In your version of the story, did the cop tase the kid, stand him up, turn him around, shoot him 7 times, and then beat up his own face just because he wanted to kill someone? Seems plausible...

I don't believe that cops life was in danger one bit. Nope.

Of course you don't. I'm not surprised one bit.

You're wrong... but I'm not surprised.

At what point would the officer have been justified to use deadly force, in your opinion?

If the little boy man had a weapon.

The camera "malfunction" is also very suspicious, and the small cut on his face has blood coming out, that doesn't mean it's a serious injury. The cop very well could have done that to himself after the shooting. Police are liars. Professional liars. Hopefully you'll learn that first hand someday soon.

a reply to: Answer

Holy crap... Is that really the officer?

I mean if that is him then I can see why he shot..

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: JeanPaul

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Liquesence

Cop was better than I believed he was. But I also agree, no reason at all to kill the kid. All teenage guys are douchebags at one time or another, including the ones who grow up to be cops. The cop was the adult and the professional with all the training. This should have ended very differently and without a loss of life.

Did you or did you not see the pictures of the officer's face?

Your "innocent douchebag teenager" shtick couldn't be further from the truth.

Here, since you obviously missed it:

At what point, in your mind, is the officer supposed to use deadly force? Before or after he's unconscious?

Why did he turn the camera off? For all we know the cop did that to himself.

If you'd read the thread instead of jumping to ridiculous conclusions, you'd already know that he didn't turn off his camera. It was knocked off during the struggle and the kid's cellphone recorded audio of the fight.

In your version of the story, did the cop tase the kid, stand him up, turn him around, shoot him 7 times, and then beat up his own face just because he wanted to kill someone? Seems plausible...

I don't believe that cops life was in danger one bit. Nope.

Of course you don't. I'm not surprised one bit.

You're wrong... but I'm not surprised.

At what point would the officer have been justified to use deadly force, in your opinion?

If the little boy man had a weapon.

The camera "malfunction" is also very suspicious, and the small cut on his face has blood coming out, that doesn't mean it's a serious injury. The cop very well could have done that to himself after the shooting. Police are liars. Professional liars. Hopefully you'll learn that first hand someday soon.

Small cut on his face... and the busted lip, and the cut on his nose, and the abrasion on the left side of his forehead, and the left black eye.

You're lying to keep up your side of the story. If you want to be taken seriously, you have to maintain your credibility instead of manipulating the truth to fit your agenda.

There was no suspicious camera malfunction... it fell off during the fight but caught an image of the kid coming toward the officer before it became useless. The kid's cell phone recorded the audio of the fight.

Please stop trying to mislead people who haven't read the full story.

Never mind -