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...and yet, seems apparent that this young man, has been watching too many YouTube videos about Constitutional Rights, and police interaction.
originally posted by: SSFFlood
a reply to: diggindirt
you do know he beat the # out of the officer....he was on top of him at one point.
originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Vroomfondel
That was my initial point too. Then I watched the video.
Watch the video.
Granted, not justifiable for killing him, but watch the video. Cop was VERY professional. Kid acted the douche.
originally posted by: Osiris1953
a reply to: krosnos
We shall see.
There is a problem in this country. Sometimes officers do have to make a decision in a split second because a situation can go from bad to deadly in a fraction of a second for every party involved. I get it, but it's out of control, I'm not saying a civil war is around the corner, but if the country gets polarized enough that it could happen... I wouldn't be surprised if it starts with regular citizens versus the police.
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: Char-Lee
The boy was passive aggressive at the very least. No I'm not saying he deserved to die for being a smartass but seeing how he acted, how he confronted the officer at every turn I'm not going to assume he simply rolled belly up when the camera turned off. I don't know what led to these tragic events. Only that officer knows.
This is certainly not a case of innocent youth murdered by raging cop. The chunk of the story that is missing is vital to judgement.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Liquesence
Cop was better than I believed he was. But I also agree, no reason at all to kill the kid. All teenage guys are douchebags at one time or another, including the ones who grow up to be cops. The cop was the adult and the professional with all the training. This should have ended very differently and without a loss of life.
originally posted by: Unity_99
originally posted by: Osiris1953
a reply to: krosnos
We shall see.
There is a problem in this country. Sometimes officers do have to make a decision in a split second because a situation can go from bad to deadly in a fraction of a second for every party involved. I get it, but it's out of control, I'm not saying a civil war is around the corner, but if the country gets polarized enough that it could happen... I wouldn't be surprised if it starts with regular citizens versus the police.
Yes, that precious judgment call of pulling a kid to the ground and tazering him, then you have to judge, oh my god this kid could hurt me in his huddled position, so I turn off my camera and riddle him with bullets.
If I was this kids parents, that police station would be charging because I would be there with an army of citizens and bullhorns, DAY AND NIGHT, NIGHT AND DAY AND ADD THE JUDGE TO THAT LIST< NIGHT AND DAY, HOME AND OFFICE! FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE FOREVER.
You don't roll over and take this, it means something huge is done until the government and the police STOP and the bad ones are in jail, but the whole policy STOPS. PERIOD.
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
And as for the cop yes he was way off base in how he handled this. He knew his lights were bright as he said several people had flashed him already and he even told the kid that if he had been respectful and complacent it would have ended differently. He was on a power trip for sure. I can't help but think he had just had enough of people flashing him and he lost it. No matter, he was confrontational towards the boy. I don't know why the kid thought he didn't have to provide I.D. when asked. Obviously he was thinking internet fame and viral video or something like that and he was expecting he'd be let go .
originally posted by: Answer
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: Liquesence
Cop was better than I believed he was. But I also agree, no reason at all to kill the kid. All teenage guys are douchebags at one time or another, including the ones who grow up to be cops. The cop was the adult and the professional with all the training. This should have ended very differently and without a loss of life.
Did you or did you not see the pictures of the officer's face?
Your "innocent douchebag teenager" shtick couldn't be further from the truth.
Here, since you obviously missed it:
At what point, in your mind, is the officer supposed to use deadly force? Before or after he's unconscious?