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originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
a reply to: ignorant_ape
Congratulations, you just made the status of ''global ethnic minority'' as a white European. In the year 2050, you might be an ethnic minority in Europe. If you were a rhino your race would be on the endangered species list.
I recommend a ''save the European'' campaign, or is that not PC or liberal enough?
www.theguardian.com...
yaledailynews.com...
Europe is a dying continent. I say this not as a criticism, but rather as a statement of fact. In Europe, an acute failure to produce the next generation has created a looming demographic crisis.
According to research by both the CIA and the U.N., every single member of the European Union has a birthrate significantly below the replacement rate of 2.1 births per woman. In the CIA World Factbook, Germany had a birthrate of 1.36 children per woman in 2007, and Spain and Italy had birthrates of 1.29. At such low levels of fertility, within 100 years, those three nations would have populations 80 percent lower than they are today. And Germany, Italy and Spain are far from alone: Every single industrialized country in Europe has a birthrate below 1.9 children per woman. The average birthrate of the European Union as a whole is approximately 1.5 children per woman — and that number is artificially inflated by the presence of millions of highly fertile non-European immigrants in the major urban centers of Europe.
Even if one ignores the statistical noise presented by the inclusion of millions of outliers, Europe faces a serious problem. Without a major shift in the current fertility trends, industrialized Europe will see its native population decline by about three-fourths over the 21st century. No civilization has ever recovered from such a population decline, and never before has such a decline been entirely voluntary.
Europeans are not becoming less fertile as a consequence of war, or famine, or disease, but rather as a consequence of their Western, consumerist lifestyles. Some, such as social critic Mark Steyn, have suggested that European civilization is in the middle of committing voluntary demographic suicide, and it’s not hard to see why: A civilization that is producing a tiny succeeding generation and shows no signs of attempting to remedy the problem is violating fundamental Darwinist principles of gene propagation.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
No, there is still a stark difference. The people changing their gender come out publicly about it, go through counseling, have to fill out various paperwork and forms to change the gender, etc. Meanwhile, this woman just changes her skin tone and hairstyle a bit then slips into an important position as a black woman, THEN lies about her struggles growing up as a black woman.
There is literally zero reason to believe this woman, and even if you DO want to honor her claims of identifying as a black woman, there is still the fact that she committed fraud. Fraud is fraud regardless of what you claim to identify as.
I guess we just have to disagree. What's good for the goose is good for the gander in my opinion and just because there is paperwork involved doesn't make something more factual.
Paperwork certainly makes it less fraudulent. How you can keep dodging the issue about how this woman committed fraud is beyond me, but I guess that is one of the hurdles you have to clear in order to believe that Jenner and this woman are the same mentally.
originally posted by: Nyiah
The issue with her identifying as black isn't that it's a skin change, it's that she hid her actual heritage & intended to keep hiding it, and wasn't forthcoming with any shred of honesty. The woman has a trail of lies behind her, and her parents & siblings felt it worth letting others know.
Becoming what you feel you really are inside is one thing. Intending to hookwink everyone in the process is bullchit, and the hallmark of a con artist & the deluded. Hasn't it been found that she utilized programs for blacks while claiming to be one? Is this not damned wrong to do, to use funding & services for people who historically have a rough time of it? This is where the core of her lies is, she stole these things from people who really needed them, not her better-off white butt. This is way more of a wrong than peeing in the opposite gender's bathroom.
originally posted by: grandmakdw
What about Elizabeth Warren? She claimed for many years she was American Indian. She has toyed with the idea of running on the Democratic ticket as President or Vice President. She is a Democratic senator from Mass. She also taught at Harvard claiming she was American Indian.
I don't see anyone making a big fuss about her claiming to be American Indian when it was proved that she was not, she simply decided she was.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: Nyiah
The issue with her identifying as black isn't that it's a skin change, it's that she hid her actual heritage & intended to keep hiding it, and wasn't forthcoming with any shred of honesty. The woman has a trail of lies behind her, and her parents & siblings felt it worth letting others know.
Becoming what you feel you really are inside is one thing. Intending to hookwink everyone in the process is bullchit, and the hallmark of a con artist & the deluded. Hasn't it been found that she utilized programs for blacks while claiming to be one? Is this not damned wrong to do, to use funding & services for people who historically have a rough time of it? This is where the core of her lies is, she stole these things from people who really needed them, not her better-off white butt. This is way more of a wrong than peeing in the opposite gender's bathroom.
but how do you make that determination? how do you look at one person and say anything about them except what is right there on their face or can be diagnosed professionally? how do you diagnose someone has being born the wrong ethnicity? how does that reflect on the family who gave them the genetics for something they reject? as though there isnt enough dividing family and society. there are so many factors to consider here but the biggest and most important factor (apparently) is the "freedom of expression" aka "the freedom of impermanence". which is nothing more than the license to wear ethnicity and gender and sexuality like the latest trend from macy's. let me be clear here: GENDER/ETHNICITY/SEXUALITY ARE NOT STAGE PROPS.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
What are you...some kind of racist? I'm not allowed to parade up and down the street with a sign saying "White Pride" without retribution.
However...if you dare (for example) tell a trans-gender male that had a sex change to female, that they are not scientifically a woman...you will hear a different story...you will be called "homophobic"
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: grandmakdw
What about Elizabeth Warren? She claimed for many years she was American Indian. She has toyed with the idea of running on the Democratic ticket as President or Vice President. She is a Democratic senator from Mass. She also taught at Harvard claiming she was American Indian.
What about her? She committed fraud too to gain support for votes. The only reason she isn't in jail is likely because she is rich.
I don't see anyone making a big fuss about her claiming to be American Indian when it was proved that she was not, she simply decided she was.
Everything I just read about it indicated that a VERY big fuss was made when these allegations came to light, so I don't know where you get this account from.
But in the end, people have been pretending to be other races for various reasons for a LONG time, that doesn't mean they are serious about their claims.
I'm sure you remember the commercial with the Native American looking at the empty can of soda and crying that single tear? If not, here it is below.
That guy wasn't Native American either.
People lie about their history and ethnicity to gain advantages, this is nothing new, and it CERTAINLY isn't the same as internally believing you are something not on the outside. It is all just a examples of deceiving the public at large.
originally posted by: grandmakdw
My personal thoughts are his desire to be female us an unconscious urge
to get the attention his wife and daughters were getting.
originally posted by: grandmakdw
My personal thoughts are his desire to be female us an unconscious urge
to get the attention his wife and daughters were getting.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
No, there is still a stark difference. The people changing their gender come out publicly about it, go through counseling, have to fill out various paperwork and forms to change the gender, etc. Meanwhile, this woman just changes her skin tone and hairstyle a bit then slips into an important position as a black woman, THEN lies about her struggles growing up as a black woman.
There is literally zero reason to believe this woman, and even if you DO want to honor her claims of identifying as a black woman, there is still the fact that she committed fraud. Fraud is fraud regardless of what you claim to identify as.
I guess we just have to disagree. What's good for the goose is good for the gander in my opinion and just because there is paperwork involved doesn't make something more factual.
Paperwork certainly makes it less fraudulent. How you can keep dodging the issue about how this woman committed fraud is beyond me, but I guess that is one of the hurdles you have to clear in order to believe that Jenner and this woman are the same mentally.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
its because being a trailblazer in civic rights is the "cool thing" to do these days. it makes you a champion of the minority and thats a politically progressive move. a guaranteed gold star for anyone who figures out how to exploit that "anti-discrimination" motif we have worked so hard to establish.
originally posted by: grandmakdw
What about Elizabeth Warren? She claimed for many years she was American Indian.
...
I don't see anyone making a big fuss about her claiming to be American Indian when it was proved that she was not, she simply decided she was.
originally posted by: grandmakdw
The way I understand it
Elizabeth Warren actually did think she was American Indian and fully participated in the self deception until it was found out.
Rachel is the same, she is self deluded and would have stayed deluded except she went too far in trying to get people to buy into her delusion.
People with delusions like these are now being not only accepted, but the attention, fame and money they get for their delusions can encourage those with marginal personalities who are borderline personality disordered to go ahead and force society to buy into their delusions and to applaud them for their delusions.
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE
No, there is still a stark difference. The people changing their gender come out publicly about it, go through counseling, have to fill out various paperwork and forms to change the gender, etc. Meanwhile, this woman just changes her skin tone and hairstyle a bit then slips into an important position as a black woman, THEN lies about her struggles growing up as a black woman.
There is literally zero reason to believe this woman, and even if you DO want to honor her claims of identifying as a black woman, there is still the fact that she committed fraud. Fraud is fraud regardless of what you claim to identify as.
I guess we just have to disagree. What's good for the goose is good for the gander in my opinion and just because there is paperwork involved doesn't make something more factual.
Paperwork certainly makes it less fraudulent. How you can keep dodging the issue about how this woman committed fraud is beyond me, but I guess that is one of the hurdles you have to clear in order to believe that Jenner and this woman are the same mentally.
I'm not dodging it. I think her claim is simply stupid...as is she. I can reverse your comment to...why do you keep throwing in the fraud when I'm simply talking about how people identify.
originally posted by: TheJourney
originally posted by: TzarChasm
its because being a trailblazer in civic rights is the "cool thing" to do these days. it makes you a champion of the minority and thats a politically progressive move. a guaranteed gold star for anyone who figures out how to exploit that "anti-discrimination" motif we have worked so hard to establish.
Anti-discrimination motif, a true horror in comparison to the pro-discrimination motif that has governed this country for most of its existence, eh?
dis·crim·i·nate
dəˈskriməˌnāt/
verb
1.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.
originally posted by: TzarChasm
originally posted by: TheJourney
originally posted by: TzarChasm
its because being a trailblazer in civic rights is the "cool thing" to do these days. it makes you a champion of the minority and thats a politically progressive move. a guaranteed gold star for anyone who figures out how to exploit that "anti-discrimination" motif we have worked so hard to establish.
Anti-discrimination motif, a true horror in comparison to the pro-discrimination motif that has governed this country for most of its existence, eh?
"anti-discrimination" is just as dangerous as discrimination. remember, discrimination in itself is not evil.
dis·crim·i·nate
dəˈskriməˌnāt/
verb
1.
recognize a distinction; differentiate.
the ability to differentiate is imperative to survival. and it is this ability to differentiate that we are desensitizing in this latest quest to "equalize" aka paint the world one color. but the world ISNT one color. and deciding that red is blue is unfair to every person who still recognizes it as red because thats its definition. particularly if you call them "discriminating" simply because you decided that red being red isnt enough to make you happy with yourself. thats no ones problem but your own and there is NO justification for fixing what isnt broken just because of that. thats what i call (very sardonically) being a "trailblazer" - you set yourself up as the underdog by making unreasonable demands then accusing people of being unfair based on factors that are introduced specifically for the purpose of making them look bad. then your unreasonable demands are met simply to appease an easily excitable society who are trained to react viciously to any act of "discrimination".
see how this works?