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No the population of Ukraine see that this is not a civil war, but an invasion from Russia and have been saying that from the beginning.
The sanctions say differently as the only way to get them lifted is for Putin to remove his troops from Ukraine...so the world sees this for what it is a Russian invasion and war created by Russia. The sanctions pretty much show that it is more than just a propaganda war.
You mean much like what Russian media has done during this whole conflict...gotcha.
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
So all in all, nothing like portrayed by Yahoo.
And yet two other sources were provided so it just isn't what Yahoo is portraying.
originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Zcustosmorum
I guess they already protested the fact that Kiev was bombing them in the first place
The only reason they are being bombed in the first place is the fact that the separatists are firing from residential areas, but feel free to show where Ukraine is just bombing civilian areas that the separatists aren't using as a hiding place?
Can you provide that?
That's a lie, I seen many videos of Kiev shells raining down on busy Ukranian streets, there were no rebels there.
The propaganda war was the giveaway, the West were just to impatient in trying to pin everything on Russia, the greed of Kiev and the Ukranians (regardless of which side they have allegiance to) are paying the price.
…demanded Monday that pro-Russian insurgents remove scores of rocket launchers from crowded city neighborhoods…
So you were on those streets and know there were no separatists there?
So just because there were no separatists visible in the videos you say you saw they obviously were not there…seriously?
Thats not proof they were there. But you could show that to us, "pro russian bodies in the street"?
If you would be so kind.
A not a single one of the 3 sources you shared told the whole story.
As evidence of this statement, Yahoo then shows view of grads launching from "crowded city neighborhood"?
Pro-Russian rebels stationed in the eastern Ukrainian city of Gorlivka, Donetsk region, launch rockets from Grad launch vehicles on February 18, 2015 (AFP Photo/Andrey Borodulin)
And had you read the description with that pic you would see they aren't saying that these are the ones they are talking about.
So because you don't see dead separatists in the streets that is proof they weren't there…can you prove they weren't there.
As the thread OP, the burden of proof of 'Grads launching from crowded city neighborhoods' is on you.
Shucking that with 'prove they aren't' is just dodging the question.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but basically you are making a claim without providing any evidence to back it up( as usual ),
you then ask us to provide with evidence that would disprove your false claim?
You never seem to change the tactic. Always with the same stuff, it's honestly getting kinda boring.
OP is just doing like most of the western presstitutes do as shown in this RT vid .
And watching you try to derail a thread time and time again is to.
Now care to discuss the topic of this thread?
Wait, what? So you're saying that asking for evidence is a derail attempt?
I guess you're right, questioning credibility of information that you post here, is getting in a way of your true agenda here.
Just because you make a claim and consider it truthful just because it fits into your belief, doesn't make it true. And please, look at which post am i responding to.
The thread is about the Ukrainians in the East protesting the separatists, but feel free to tell me what my threads about?
So because you don't see dead separatists in the streets that is proof they weren't there...can you prove they weren't there.
the fact they are protesting the separatists in East Ukraine, because that is all this thread is about nothing more.
And concerning the topic of this thread it has been shown more than once that there were Ukrainians protesting separatists in East Ukraine...care to discuss the topic?