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originally posted by: ImaFungi
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Take a monochromatic light source, measure the frequency (thus the energy) of the light, from a detector stationary with respect to the light. Move the detector toward the light source and the light appears blue-shifted (higher frequency thus higher energy) and move the detector away and the light appears red-shifted (thus lower energy).
originally posted by: ImaFungi
Would the same energy signature photon be measured differently because one would hit the detector as the detector was moving away from the photon
And one would hit the detector as the detector was moving toward the photon?
So you said 'photon' loses energy over time (and space);
But the photon doesnt really lose energy, it is just that our detector is either moving slightly towards, or slightly away, at the moment of detection?
originally posted by: mbkennel
a reply to: ImaFungi
Your'e STILL attempting to think and understand properties of the world exclusively through linguistic syllogisms and unsubtle and naive notions of '=' and 'is'.
originally posted by: mbkennel
Red and blueshifts as observed are illusions from different reference frames or space expanding, which is something different.
originally posted by: anonentity
How then does the electron know to change, the photons signature to hydrogen? Unless its intelligent.
originally posted by: admirethedistance
a reply to: ImaFungi
I've got to admit, I have no idea what the heck you're even trying to say anymore.
Photons are nothing like guitar strings, by the way. Terrible analogy.
originally posted by: mbkennel
a reply to: ImaFungi
Your'e STILL attempting to think and understand properties of the world exclusively through linguistic syllogisms and unsubtle and naive notions of '=' and 'is'.
originally posted by: darkorange
But why is that wrong? You appeal to supposed complexity of the universe that is attainable only to those with special skills is meaningless. Scientists spend lifetime explaining to themselves the meaning of it all.
World can and must be conceptualized so anyone curious can understand. Science did that in the past and will do it in a future, imo.
originally posted by: anonentity
a photon is "time locked" or time neutral with regards to the observer
originally posted by: Bedlam
originally posted by: darkorange
But why is that wrong? You appeal to supposed complexity of the universe that is attainable only to those with special skills is meaningless. Scientists spend lifetime explaining to themselves the meaning of it all.
But typically, they're not trying to explain things to themselves by using English to the exclusion of math. Because it's a bad tool for that sort of work.
You can't even do high school level Newtonian mechanics that way.
World can and must be conceptualized so anyone curious can understand. Science did that in the past and will do it in a future, imo.
Maybe in 1200. But science has been using advanced math since before Newton. A lot of things just aren't easy to state in English, or really even possible, other than in really confusing analogies that don't really explain what's going on, unless you already have some grasp of the math. See also: convolution, curl, gradient, etc.
originally posted by: admirethedistance
a reply to: ImaFungi
I've got to admit, I have no idea what the heck you're even trying to say anymore.
Photons are nothing like guitar strings, by the way. Terrible analogy.